Amherst College exhibition game?

[SavageNYCQueens]

personally i would want to play a better team in the area so that we can be better prepared for the season.

[Marty Peretz]

i'd rather play at umass and beat both... and if he was good enough, he wouldn't have had to make the choice

Let's be realistic here. Amherst College provides a better educational experience than UMass. If you made the argument with Stanford/Duke, that's one thing. But the reason the kid would go to Amherst over UMass is academic, not athletic.

[Quann]

Anybody think we'd lose by 10+ to anybody in the elite eight in Springfield this weekend?

Did you see the front lines for those teams. Most of them had centers who were about 6'6". They'd have a tough time matching up against Ray and Stephane

[TBird]

No way. Who wants to see posts like this?

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php? ... #msg700536

[Umass90]

i'd rather play at umass and beat both... and if he was good enough, he wouldn't have had to make the choice

Let's be realistic here. Amherst College provides a better educational experience than UMass. If you made the argument with Stanford/Duke, that's one thing. But the reason the kid would go to Amherst over UMass is academic, not athletic.

yeah you're right, i see absolutely no reason why someone would want something for free, when they can pay $120,000 and be saddled for life with student debt for something slightly better

Not to be rude and very happy that I chose UMass, but I'm guessing that with an Amherst degree, 120K of debt goes away pretty fast....

[nale]

Play them in the cage before the start of the season and show everyone why their trophy means nothing in the grand scheme.

In the 'grand scheme' of things winning their national championship means as much as winning any other national sports championship.
With that additude do/did you also believe UMASS's D1A foottball championship meant nothing?
Does your logic mean that the NCCA basketball championship is meaningless because that team couldn't beat the NBA champions?

As for the payng $ when you can play for free argument. D3 schools don't have athletic scholarships but they do have academic scholarships and financial aid. My guess would be none of the Amherst players pay full price for their Amherst education.

[jj]

but let's not make this out like amherst has something over some other d1 schools... maybe not umass... but colgate, holy cross, bu etc are all low d1 schools with academics comparable to amherst... if they were good enough, they would have been offered schollies to those types of schools

Ktabz, you're killing me. If you think for one sweet second that an Amherst degree (along with the networking contacts that matriculating there provides) isn't worth a TON more than any of the schools you just named, you've completely lost your mind.

Lost it.

[Lunatic]

this post is getting retarded now, everyone seems to be arguing the academics rather than what this thread is about... ATHLETICS- BASKETBALL


I for one am positive that if we played amherst college, we would thoroughly wipe the leaman court with them. Chris lowe would run by anyone.

Hell, your amherst boys wouldnt even be able to hold out against our C team, we wouldnt just beat you, but embarrass you, don't think too highly of your d3 team just because your the champs... btw, congrats on that. but don't for one second think you're good enough to compete with a school that is far superior than yourself in athletics.



and don't get too high on u're academic ecstacy either, it's not like there arent D1 schools that have great academics, some even better.

[nale]

but let's not make this out like amherst has something over some other d1 schools... maybe not umass... but colgate, holy cross, bu etc are all low d1 schools with academics comparable to amherst... if they were good enough, they would have been offered schollies to those types of schools

Your doing it again ktabz16 . Try not using your opinions as facts.
The schools you mention all have good academic repuations but none (except maybe Colgate )are on par with Amherst.
Amherst is one of the most selective college in the country.

[nale]

this post is getting retarded now, everyone seems to be arguing the academics rather than what this thread is about... ATHLETICS- BASKETBALL
I for one am positive that if we played amherst college, we would thoroughly wipe the leaman court with them. Chris lowe would run by anyone.

Funny post Lunatic. I hope you were being sarcastic or ironic.

What this thread was/is really about is:
Should UMASS schedule Amherst College for an exhibition game.

It was not how badly we would beat them and not who can insult AC the most.

[AGldFinch6]

I would have liked to see a 3pt contest between Life and Wheeler. I think Life would win due to the fact he has shown he can hit threes in situations such as midnight madnees, but Wheeler is a very good 3pt shooter.

Olson is one of the best pure point guards in the whole country, regardless of division. Not even worth comparing him to Lowe or anyone else in New England. Try seeing him play a few times. The games are free, try to make it to some.

[AGldFinch6]

don't get me wrong amherst is probably the best bball program in D3, but they'd have trouble staying with any D1, much less umass, who was in the top 100 in D1 last year... let's not forget that here, despite someone changing the subject to academics (which my facts may be wrong but the premise is dead on) which had nothing to do with anything...

yes williams hung an L on holy cross once... but williams was the national champ either that year or the year before, and they were still playing a patriot league team

You obviously have something against Amherst and haven't seen them play recently. Amherst isn't PROBABLY the best D3 team, they are the best, it pretty simple to understand. National Championship = best team.

[nale]

Your doing it again ktabz16 . Try not using your opinions as facts.
The schools you mention all have good academic repuations but none (except maybe Colgate )are on par with Amherst.
Amherst is one of the most selective college in the country.

bucknell, any of the ivys (which don't give scholarships, but would still beat the piss out of AC) look i get that AC has great academics... but i think it is rare for a kid with D1 ability to choose an D3 school over a myriad of decent D1 schools who have some academic reputation...

but what makes anyone think that AC could hang with any mid major school? cuz one kid had some D1 looks but chose to go academic at AC?

theres a gigantic difference in the level of play between D3 and D1, some of you may not know this but i began college playing D3 soccer, knew a few kids who went D1 and 2 and theres a huge difference not only in physical conditioning, but time devoted to practice, the depth level of studying the game, preparing for games etc etc etc

don't get me wrong amherst is probably the best bball program in D3, but they'd have trouble staying with any D1, much less umass, who was in the top 100 in D1 last year... let's not forget that here, despite someone changing the subject to academics (which my facts may be wrong but the premise is dead on) which had nothing to do with anything...

yes williams hung an L on holy cross once... but williams was the national champ either that year or the year before, and they were still playing a patriot league team

ktabz16, Exactly what I meant when I said you are doing it again. You post about D1 schools you think have academics comparable to Amherst
I respond that you are wrong so you qucikly agree you were wrong and you come back argue about stuff I haven't commented on.
I never said anything about a D3 matching up with a D1 in basketball.
Think before you post so you don't have to backtrack so often.

Everyone knows D1 and D3 sports are different. .

Then even better you argue against yourself?
First you ask:
"but what makes anyone think that AC could hang with any mid major school?"
Then you give a perfect example of Williams (the school closest in many ways to Amherst) beating Holy Cross (an NCCA, mid major team which has beaten UMASS recently). Brilliant !

I think you won that argument.

FYI: I think your
"my facts may be wrong but the premise is dead on"
is one of the best lines I have ever read on this forum.
I hope you don't mind if I use it myself sometime.

[Umass90]

Id be VERY surprised if I'm the only out here who grows tired of this discussion.

Is there anything real to discuss/debate?

[MikeUMA]

The only thing left to debate is why we have over 1400 registrations on the board, and only 51 votes to this poll question. And I even weed out the spammers trying to sell you offshore pharmacy products or get you to their porn sites