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Re: 2025 Season

Post by Steve81 » Wed Oct 15, 2025 9:37 am

Scott O wrote: Tue Oct 14, 2025 8:32 pm Sadly, the only way the Mullins gets more 1k in the seats this season is if they go 30-0 and blow everyone out by 30. Otherwise there’s zero appetite for MAC ball.
Sadly, only 2.7k showed up for us in the A10. For agreement’s sake, say attendance goes down by about 40% or 1k. Big picture, you are talking about a 250k difference in revenue. So, you are coming over to this board, to complain about the MAC, with the complaint that the it could affect the budget by a fraction and not acknowledging that UMass Football will receive 1.4M more in CFP plus other things and the MAC 13-year contract will be up. The A10 got a 40% raise. That 13-year-old MAC contract is 60% more* than the new A10 contract and will be going way up. Idk how much, but think it will be around 25M compared to the A10 7M with less teams.

I did not like being independent and you certainly did not care. I certain don't care about you, but care you, others on X complain or state false facts as the NIL and push negativity about UMass with your narrow focus views on the A10 and leadership.

Rene will be interviewed by the Boston Globe and not sure how much of his message will be in print. But he called out the trustees, president and governor for support of the football program. He also said the reason basketball was successful, was because everyone was behind the move and the Mullin’s center would be equivalent to a 300M spend on the stadium. That UMass kids are going to school in Tennessee and down south. Where do these kids hear about those universities? It's sports media, specifically Football. Football is the front porch for engagement, donations and alumni back to campus. The engagement for basketball was 2,7k last year and our fan donations are a fraction of teams like Dayton and VCU. We have the Mullins Center, pay the coach 2M, were in the A10. It's time for fans to also step it up and donate. I donate till it hurts and will be rock steady with my donations and probably make a jump in 2027, after helping out family next year.

I prefer to be positive about UMass and don’t like posting some facts of the basketball attendance. Like our coach and think we will be turning it around in our new home.

*Per universities as the A10 was 15 teams and the MAC will be 12 teams.
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Re: 2025 Season

Post by photoman » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:08 pm

Remember back to July and August when we were told that this season would be different? I guess 0-12 would be different!

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Re: 2025 Season

Post by LS71 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 3:58 pm

^ Yeah, well, like they say in southern Russia…shitski happens, you all! :wink:
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Re: 2025 Season

Post by TheInsider » Mon Oct 27, 2025 4:19 pm

Well we also thought they had a million or 2 to spend... i guess we should have known better when the transfer class was full of Ivy and lower level guys..

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Re: 2025 Season

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TheInsider wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 4:19 pm Well we also thought they had a million or 2 to spend... i guess we should have known better when the transfer class was full of Ivy and lower level guys..
Apparently they spent the money on them after 7/1….so

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Re: 2025 Season

Post by Steve81 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 6:27 pm

TheInsider wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 4:19 pm Well we also thought they had a million or 2 to spend... i guess we should have known better when the transfer class was full of Ivy and lower level guys..
Think that was for all sports with about 62% for football, 30% men's basketball, 3 to 4 percent for women's basketball and hockey, a tiny bit for men's soccer.
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Re: 2025 Season

Post by minutefanjsf » Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:11 am

Steve81 wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 6:27 pm
TheInsider wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 4:19 pm Well we also thought they had a million or 2 to spend... i guess we should have known better when the transfer class was full of Ivy and lower level guys..
Think that was for all sports with about 62% for football, 30% men's basketball, 3 to 4 percent for women's basketball and hockey, a tiny bit for men's soccer.
Nope. It was specifically for football. And according to “in the know” people we spent 2 million. Approximately 500k before 7/1 and 1.5 million after. https://www.minutemancommand.com/p/umas ... or-new-nil. My understanding now, It seems the failures occurred before 7/1 because the money was not able to be used to recruit.

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Re: 2025 Season

Post by Steve81 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:06 pm

minutefanjsf wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:11 am
Steve81 wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 6:27 pm
TheInsider wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 4:19 pm Well we also thought they had a million or 2 to spend... i guess we should have known better when the transfer class was full of Ivy and lower level guys..
Think that was for all sports with about 62% for football, 30% men's basketball, 3 to 4 percent for women's basketball and hockey, a tiny bit for men's soccer.
Nope. It was specifically for football. And according to “in the know” people we spent 2 million. Approximately 500k before 7/1 and 1.5 million after. https://www.minutemancommand.com/p/umas ... or-new-nil. My understanding now, It seems the failures occurred before 7/1 because the money was not able to be used to recruit.
Can stand to be corrected, but read the article and from Pete's link says "UMass", not "UMass Football" as the 21.5M limit is per university and not the universities football program.
Another component of the settlement is the new revenue-sharing agreement. Student-athletes will no longer be playing for scholarships alone. They will also have an opportunity to earn 22% of the average revenue that power conference schools generate per year, which averages out to $21.5 million. The majority of this money will be paid out to football and men’s basketball players. Each school has the opportunity to opt in or out of revenue sharing, but opting out will put your program behind many others who choose to pay their players.
UMass will have nearly $2 million in NIL/revenue share for the 2025 season and $3 million for 2026, according to sources. Those numbers are guaranteed, according to sources, which means they don't have to go out and fundraise.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ball-coach

Will also add the Midnight Ride Collective was around 300k for before July 1st, which Pat took over as UMass Athletics took that in-house. I don't know your source and if they just like to round higher to the closest 1/2 million.
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Re: 2025 Season

Post by Steve81 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 2:34 pm

The Midnight Ride was not run as well as MassCo with Pat. When the administration advised the Midnight Ride they were taking it in-house, he abruptly shut it down. When Pat was asked question about the football contracts, he said they were not down like basketball with a kind of balloon payment after the transfer portal closed. The 300k figure came from our AD, so we had 300k collective NIL budget for this years class*. Reading things as stated, think we will have around 1.25M NIL budget this year for the class of 2026. We will be around 2M for the class 2027. I don't know if the AD can pull any money forward.

* Not crystal clear on the 2025 NIL, if much budget, since believe the Midnight Ride shutdown at the end of November 2024, before the transfer portal.
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Re: 2025 Season

Post by DanaDingle3 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 2:57 pm

minutefanjsf wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:11 am
Steve81 wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 6:27 pm
TheInsider wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 4:19 pm Well we also thought they had a million or 2 to spend... i guess we should have known better when the transfer class was full of Ivy and lower level guys..
Think that was for all sports with about 62% for football, 30% men's basketball, 3 to 4 percent for women's basketball and hockey, a tiny bit for men's soccer.
My understanding now, It seems the failures occurred before 7/1 because the money was not able to be used to recruit.
How could "the failures" have occurred before 7/1 when UMass wasn't legally allowed to pay directly until 7/1? According to every reputable source, everything promised was paid. You've chosen to spread a lot of misinformation on this topic. Maybe sit this one out for a while.

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Re: 2025 Season

Post by inthescoop » Sat Nov 01, 2025 3:46 pm

Buffalo beat Bowling Green 28-3 today. I think there’s definitely a chance we can pull out 1 win this season.. just need things to go our way a bit.

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Re: 2025 Season

Post by harbo » Sat Nov 01, 2025 4:33 pm

LS71 wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 3:58 pm ^ Yeah, well, like they say in southern Russia…shitski happens, you all! :wink:
Or, as we used to say back in the old country...
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Re: 2025 Season

Post by ZooMass84 » Sat Nov 01, 2025 5:45 pm

inthescoop wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 3:46 pm Buffalo beat Bowling Green 28-3 today. I think there’s definitely a chance we can pull out 1 win this season.. just need things to go our way a bit.
saw that too,,,,,,if only it worked that way, I guess the only 2 possible wins are Boiling Green and NIU. Haven;t given up hope
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Re: 2025 Season

Post by TheInsider » Sun Nov 02, 2025 8:25 am

Need to get healthy

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Re: 2025 Season

Post by minutefanjsf » Sun Nov 02, 2025 9:11 am

DanaDingle3 wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 2:57 pm
minutefanjsf wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:11 am
Steve81 wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 6:27 pm

Think that was for all sports with about 62% for football, 30% men's basketball, 3 to 4 percent for women's basketball and hockey, a tiny bit for men's soccer.
My understanding now, It seems the failures occurred before 7/1 because the money was not able to be used to recruit.
How could "the failures" have occurred before 7/1 when UMass wasn't legally allowed to pay directly until 7/1? According to every reputable source, everything promised was paid. You've chosen to spread a lot of misinformation on this topic. Maybe sit this one out for a while.
NIL existed before 7/1. UMass decided to break ties with its NIL. MRC did not close up shop with no direction from the school. Before 7/1 they were the source of NIL. The recruiting period that came after MRC shuttering and 7/1 was where the breakdowns occurred. https://dailycollegian.com/2024/12/umas ... n-tuesday/ Here is the collegians reporting. Maybe I haven’t been clear sharing what I understand. Sorry for that. Like I said I’m not an insider. Bamford said publicly that 2 million would be spent on football this year. The school spent 1.5. There were glitches, not just at UMass, getting that money online for 7/1. Shuttering the collective right before the new coach was hired and the signing period in December is what I mean by failures before 7/1. Those decisions were on Bamford.
https://dailycollegian.com/2025/06/the- ... handle-it/ Here is where it was publicly reported that football would have 2 million plus for this current season.

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