KAEO DeJon Jarreau (2016)

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Post by NilesGold » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:51 pm

^ Pretty sure both Gresham and Carter were hip injuries.

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Post by RageintheCage » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:11 pm

It's very likely that DJ will be able to meaningfully return this year and I suspect DK will welcome him back. The 4-6 weeks is an average of a "typical" stress fracture, but there are usually two big variables. The first is where it is. If it is in the metatarsal (small bones at front of foot) or the navicular, these can be harder to heal and often take up to 8+ weeks. The other factor is the extent of the stress fracture. Some stress fractures are what's called "stress reactions" and in these cases the bone itself isn't actually broken/fractured, it merely is showing signs of strain and will fracture if not rested/treated. These take much less time to heal. A more pronounced fracture will take more. The treatment protocol will be to put a boot on with crutches (per the pic) to remove all weight, and likely take him off of all activity for a couple weeks. Assuming it is improving they will likely let him do non-weight bearing conditioning (e.g. pool) in a couple weeks and then will reevaluate after a month plus. At that point they will know whether he can begin PT and progress from there. For him to be back at full game speed, even with a typical stress fracture, we are likely looking at 6-8 weeks.

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Re: KAEO DeJon Jarreau (2016)

Post by RageintheCage » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:13 pm

Either way this really sucks though. I was just getting more optimistic about this year. Totally agree though that this team is on the rise and hopefully this will be a short term set back which will help others develop with more minutes...

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Post by uz2b-len » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:44 pm

fenway617 wrote:Didn't Gresham have one as well this summer? And what was Sampson cart's injury?
I think Samp's injury was muscular. And yes, Gresham did have one this summer.
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Post by fenway617 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:05 pm

Kellogg channeling his inner Bellichick, Deeky out 4-6 weeks...comes back after 2 games.
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Post by NilesGold » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:06 pm

^ They realized DJ's injury was a stress reaction, not a stress fracture. The trainer cleared him to play but they (not sure if it was the trainer or coaches) capped his minutes today at 15.

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Post by fenway617 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:57 pm

^^
Only thing missing was Kellogg saying "The players who can play will play and the ones who can't won't".
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Post by uz2b-len » Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:01 pm

Quite a surprise to see him come out on the court
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Post by DrG » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:41 pm

Was it the trainer who cleared him to play? I would think they would want a doctor's clearance. I mean, a week ago, he had a huge boot on his foot and he was getting around on a scooter. Anyway, good to see him back, he wasn't bad during his 13 minutes.

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Post by Swampy » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:45 pm

^ Doc Rouzier had the last word on this, I'm sure.

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Post by UMass1927 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:15 pm

NilesGold wrote:^ They realized DJ's injury was a stress reaction, not a stress fracture. The trainer cleared him to play but they (not sure if it was the trainer or coaches) capped his minutes today at 15.
I'm so confused by all of this. It turns out they think he has had this "injury" his whole life? Why is he on such a short minutes limit then? His conditioning can't be that impacted he has only been out for a week or two.

Is he not at risk of making it any worse?

I'm confused why the logic is to be "cautious" with him while in the same frame of mind giving him minutes this quickly after the original diagnosis.

As long as he is alright long term i guess that is all that matters but I hope they are doing what is in the best interest of the kid.
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Re: KAEO DeJon Jarreau (2016)

Post by NilesGold » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:32 pm

^ Sounds me like like a stress reaction is basically the early stages of a stress fracture. If you catch it in time it won't become a fracture. They need to ease Jarreau back, hence the minutes restriction right now.

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/a ... cleid=2056

"A stress reaction is commonly seen as well with runners and triathletes. It is a reaction that the soft tissue and bone can demonstrate prior to an actual fracture being seen. It is often diagnosed using the same history and exam from the physician in addition to imaging. It has the same risk factors as well and is often seen on MRI and not x-ray. The MRI will show edema or swelling in the bone but no actual fracture in addition to inflammation in the surrounding tissue.

In order to treat both of these injuries a person is advised to stop activity and placed in a walking boot and can be made non-weight bearing with crutches depending on the extent of the injury when it involves the foot. Pain control, immobilization, protection of the injured area and a gradual return to activity is how it is treated. Typically a stress fracture or stress reaction in the foot is treated with 4-6 weeks in a walking boot and then gradual return to activity with rehabilitation and modification of activity. Total time for recovery varies from individual based on many factors including compliance to treatment, nutrition, extent of injury and activity level the person is returning to."

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Re: KAEO DeJon Jarreau (2016)

Post by UMass1927 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:15 pm

^^That all makes sense Niles. I would just prefer they are conservative with him. To have him come back this quickly, even for limited minutes, just seems odd to me.
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Re: KAEO DeJon Jarreau (2016)

Post by ScottieB » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:24 pm

I was very pleasantly surprised to see him out there yesterday. You guys had me convinced he was done for the year! Doom and gloom speculatin mofos. :lol:

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Re: KAEO DeJon Jarreau (2016)

Post by tdmass » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:28 pm

You should know better to believe what's posted on a message board . . especially this one!

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