An exercise for your consideration....

Butter · Post by **Butter** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:41 am

I think I like the Dingle answer best, but there are many past guys that could be used here as glue guys. It's what stands out about Cal and his coaching tree, Cal grew his entire rep on hard nosed, want it more, play above yourself teams but once he started being able to get McD's all Americans, he stopped looking for these guys. And it trickled down to Pastner and Kellogg in my opinion. Memphis lacks the same exact thing UMass does (boxing out, doing the little things above and beyond) and they succeed a bit more solely because they are a bit more talented. Dingle might be the biggest glue guy I remember. Of course, Mike Williams was swag before swag was known.

InnervisionsUMASS · Post by **InnervisionsUMASS** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:53 pm

del padre wrote:Monty Mack. Scorer, defender, and could handle the ball.

This. With a PG like Chaz getting the ball to him, we would have scored a ton of points.

Uminuteman · Post by **Uminuteman** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:32 pm

Harper.
He would score, rebound and teach all of them what playing hard really means.

Floyd · Post by **Floyd** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:12 pm

InnervisionsUMASS wrote:
del padre wrote:Monty Mack. Scorer, defender, and could handle the ball.

This. With a PG like Chaz getting the ball to him, we would have scored a ton of points.

I'd go with Monty as well. kid could fill it up and was always moving

DoctorJ · Post by **DoctorJ** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:41 pm

I'm on board with Monty Mack.

I agree Ricky or Gary would have also have had an enormous impact.

It is a brain bender question though. Not only do you have to imagine how good a player would be on the current team, you also have to evaluate how good a player was because of the team he played on.

Sometimes I see a player on another team and I think, wow if that dude had better players around him...That Anisoke (spelling?) guy on Siena fits that category.

Umass89 · Post by **Umass89** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:38 pm

Donte Bright - always loved him and thought he was underrated.

TruBluMaroon · Post by **TruBluMaroon** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:54 pm

Mike Williams. Had a knack for hitting game winners and would have helped out in some of those close losses. Would have been an asset to the march to the Sweet 16!
Honorable Mention
Al Skinner - Double /Double with over 50% shooting
Jim Town - could have used one of his 27 rebound games.
Mark Haymore - could have used a low post player who shot 60%.

UMassHoops · Post by **UMassHoops** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:14 pm

I'd take Lorenzo Sutton on this team especially after Jesse went down. He could score lights out, and had a nice 3pt percentage as well

NilesGold · Post by **NilesGold** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:16 pm

Man this is such a good question. It forces you to take a slightly different look at what we were lacking this year. If there's one thing it highlights for me, it's that there were so many things that could've made a huge difference at one time or another during the year. We could've used another ball-handler against VCU, better rebounding against Butler, better team defense against St. Bonaventure, better interior defense against Miami.

In every game it would've been really nice to have a consistent offensive threat other than Chaz and I wish we had someone who could draw fouls. Rebounding, defense, toughness and turnovers could also have been better.

There's no one person that could fill all those needs, but I think the closest thing might be Gary Forbes. If we could have 2, I'm thinking Harper Williams and Monty Mack.

Gaber205 · Post by **Gaber205** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:17 pm

TheInsider wrote:Will Hearndon.. He might not have helped us get any further but watching him in this offense with Chaz throwing lobs would be a lot of fun.

This.

umass2msu · Post by **umass2msu** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:21 pm

Lasme... nothing like an A10 Defender of the year to get a triple double with pts, boards, and blocks!! With Lasme, we would have won GW, Charlotte, St Bonnie, and Temple for sure. The other losses.. I am not so sure.

Swampy · Post by **Swampy** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:21 pm

Butter wrote:I think I like the Dingle answer best, but there are many past guys that could be used here as glue guys. It's what stands out about Cal and his coaching tree, Cal grew his entire rep on hard nosed, want it more, play above yourself teams but once he started being able to get McD's all Americans, he stopped looking for these guys. And it trickled down to Pastner and Kellogg in my opinion. Memphis lacks the same exact thing UMass does (boxing out, doing the little things above and beyond) and they succeed a bit more solely because they are a bit more talented. Dingle might be the biggest glue guy I remember. Of course, Mike Williams was swag before swag was known.

If you want another Terrell Vinson on the team then Dingle would be your man. They're career stats are almost identical except Vinson averaged two more points and one less rebound.

I would rather have someone who could rebound and score like Weeks, Jim Town or Tim Edwards. Or, another scorer like Mack to replace Morgan's points.

Chris20 · Post by **Chris20** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:30 am

Dingle was way better than TV on defense, and was a much better rebounder. More than the stat indicates.

TV had a much more diverse offensive game. I don' think they're very similar players.

Old Cage · Post by **Old Cage** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:49 am

Peter Bernard, a 2-guard before the position was invented, who could shoot as well as anyone who followed at UMass. Instant offense. His points per game would have been much higher if there had been a three point shot.

CrooksisRhyming · Post by **CrooksisRhyming** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:08 am

Gary Forbes would have been huge for this team. Him and Chaz would have loved each other. I think people forget how awesome he was. It can be argued that he was the best UMass player since Camby.