Ryan Bamford

[ZooMass84]

I know everybody wants him gone; obviously this misery cannot continue. Or can it? It's been 14 years of utter misery except for 2017. On X the memes are pretty funny with an AI version of Bamford "resigning". So what is the course of action: firing Bamford now, replacing him with an acting AD, and then search for someone who can fix this mess?
I have to say for the millionth time: the odds of last 14 years are statistically bordering impossible. The blocked PAT against Temple and they take it to the house to win. The missed FG against Liberty with no time left at their 25 that would have won it. Muffed kick off return against hawaii. Eastern Michigan in 2023 that won the game in the last 1:20 to march down the field for a TD.
I forget who the poster was, maybe jj something, who said years ago that our problems were "structural". He was right.
Who thinks Bamford should be replaced ASAP? And who do we get after that?

[PintOGuinness]

Not saying he shouldn't be fired, but who in their right mind would want to take this job if he goes?

[ZooMass84]

Not saying he shouldn't be fired, but who in their right mind would want to take this job if he goes?

he makes like 650k.........plenty of people

[mew3782]

Bamford should be replaced with someone expensive and successful. This is a rich state with a relatively large population; I really don't think this needs any more thought than that.

Also Zoo - I get your frustration, but if you were to look back at the wins, there would have been several that we 'shouldn't' have won but pulled them out. You would need to net those against the losses you described.

[ZooMass84]

Bamford should be replaced with someone expensive and successful. This is a rich state with a relatively large population; I really don't think this needs any more thought than that.

Also Zoo - I get your frustration, but if you were to look back at the wins, there would have been several that we 'shouldn't' have won but pulled them out. You would need to net those against the losses you described.

the wins are like hen's teeth: can you name one or two of those "shouldn't" victories?

[Floyd]

There isn't really many victories to even put in the shouldn't have bucket is there?

[eldonabe]

There isn't really many victories to even put in the shouldn't have bucket is there?

There are only 26 to choose from.

[Berkman]

The AD at RI.

[69MG]

Didn't know where to put this, but this kind of surprised me:


North Broad@IrritatedOwl
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Sep 19
Temple President John Fry is officially placing Temple athletics 6 feet under. Telling alums at a fundraising event there is no interest in joining a P4 conf is shutting down any major donation efforts to sports. Why bother? Might as well put Temple in the CAA and drop football

[InnervisionsUMASS]

Didn't know where to put this, but this kind of surprised me:


North Broad@IrritatedOwl
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Sep 19
Temple President John Fry is officially placing Temple athletics 6 feet under. Telling alums at a fundraising event there is no interest in joining a P4 conf is shutting down any major donation efforts to sports. Why bother? Might as well put Temple in the CAA and drop football

Actual quotes:

"Now that doesn't necessarily mean we're going to be a top four power conference type of thing. We can't afford that. And frankly, if I have to spend my money on research or financial aid or innovation or athletics, I know where I'm going to spend it. With the recognition that we need to do more, have to do more for athletics.

"I think that my vision for this is that highly competitive programs that understand the core piece of what they're supposed to do, but are on a regular basis competitive and strong and bring pride to the institution, and also provide a front door for the public to access Temple, because in many ways, that's the best way to access a University.

"But I don't want to overdo it. I think we've underdone it more recently and I think we need to fix that."

https://247sports.com/college/temple/ar ... 254203630/

[eldonabe]

Didn't know where to put this, but this kind of surprised me:


North Broad@IrritatedOwl
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Sep 19
Temple President John Fry is officially placing Temple athletics 6 feet under. Telling alums at a fundraising event there is no interest in joining a P4 conf is shutting down any major donation efforts to sports. Why bother? Might as well put Temple in the CAA and drop football

Actual quotes:

"Now that doesn't necessarily mean we're going to be a top four power conference type of thing. We can't afford that. And frankly, if I have to spend my money on research or financial aid or innovation or athletics, I know where I'm going to spend it. With the recognition that we need to do more, have to do more for athletics.

"I think that my vision for this is that highly competitive programs that understand the core piece of what they're supposed to do, but are on a regular basis competitive and strong and bring pride to the institution, and also provide a front door for the public to access Temple, because in many ways, that's the best way to access a University.

"But I don't want to overdo it. I think we've underdone it more recently and I think we need to fix that."

https://247sports.com/college/temple/ar ... 254203630/

Over the next 3-5 years we are going to see A LOT of these kinds of statements. The cost to compete is already out of hand and schools are going to say enough is enough.

A lot of schools will go back to regional conferences and have glorified club teams and sports.

[econalum]

I call this progress over the insanity of P4 conferences, and the withering of the next 5. Good for Temple.

Outside of the P4, second-tier athletic programs will undoubtedly determine that the expenses outweigh the revenues and return to a more sane, perhaps limited, model of regional competition, some probably dropping football completely and sharing the expenses more equitably due to Title 9. It worked 'just fine' for BU and Northeastern, for sure.

This may start at the MAC, the worst of the G5, where many of their universities are under enormous pressure to downsize academic programs and athletics, as state legislatures cut budgets, and the 'demographic cliff', meaning there are many fewer graduating high school grads over the next 10 years or so, continues to erode total demand for a college education.

Higher Education is facing very challenging times, including my employer, UNH.

Peruse www.insidehighereducation.com or www.Chronicle.com to see the challenges.

https://whyy.org/articles/pennsylvania- ... offs-cuts/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltni ... versities/

Excerpted from the Forbes article, in part. "Temple University President John Fry has projected a possible $60 million budget deficit for the upcoming fiscal year. In his June 18 budget update for the campus, Fry said that while Temple had been able to reduce an ongoing shortfall to $19 million during the current fiscal year, it had done so primarily through the use of university reserves, which he admitted was “not a sustainable practice.”

Leading to Temple’s financial woes is a decrease in enrollment of almost 10,000 students since 2017, reducing gross tuition revenue by approximately $200 million. In addition, Temple’s state appropriation has remained basically flat for the past six years despite significant increases in operating costs."

Sorry, but the P4 'club' will not share its TV revenue bonanza much further.

[InnervisionsUMASS]

I call this progress over the insanity of P4 conferences, and the withering of the next 5. Good for Temple.

Outside of the P4, second-tier athletic programs will undoubtedly determine that the expenses outweigh the revenues and return to a more sane, perhaps limited, model of regional competition, some probably dropping football completely and sharing the expenses more equitably due to Title 9. It worked 'just fine' for BU and Northeastern, for sure.

This may start at the MAC, the worst of the G5, where many of their universities are under enormous pressure to downsize academic programs and athletics, as state legislatures cut budgets, and the 'demographic cliff', meaning there are many fewer graduating high school grads over the next 10 years or so, continues to erode total demand for a college education.

Higher Education is facing very challenging times, including my employer, UNH.

Peruse www.insidehighereducation.com or www.Chronicle.com to see the challenges.

https://whyy.org/articles/pennsylvania- ... offs-cuts/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltni ... versities/

Excerpted from the Forbes article, in part. "Temple University President John Fry has projected a possible $60 million budget deficit for the upcoming fiscal year. In his June 18 budget update for the campus, Fry said that while Temple had been able to reduce an ongoing shortfall to $19 million during the current fiscal year, it had done so primarily through the use of university reserves, which he admitted was “not a sustainable practice.”

Leading to Temple’s financial woes is a decrease in enrollment of almost 10,000 students since 2017, reducing gross tuition revenue by approximately $200 million. In addition, Temple’s state appropriation has remained basically flat for the past six years despite significant increases in operating costs."

Sorry, but the P4 'club' will not share its TV revenue bonanza much further.

I bet you'd sing a different song if the Temple Prez was talking about cancelling Lax.

[stevemaz]

I believe by 2030ish we will be down to 80 or so P3s (B1G, SEC, and Big 12) and a few stragglers in the ACC and Pac12. Umass will be one of them in the ACC. Eventually it may be just two super conferences. Im not sure who blinks first between B1G and SEC, but my guess is the B1G goes to 24 schools (adding VA, NC, Cal, Stanford, Duke, and Ga Tech) using a 4 div pod system for non football sports. I can see SEC responding by going to 20 (Clemson, Fla St, Houston, and maybe Baylor or Va Tech). Big 12 does what it can to add. ACC will be BC, Pitt, Cuse, WF, Louisville, UConn, Umass, South Fla and even ND, who holds on to the Indy fb status.

Bamford needs to go.

[eldonabe]

I believe by 2030ish we will be down to 80 or so P3s (B1G, SEC, and Big 12) and a few stragglers in the ACC and Pac12. Umass will be one of them in the ACC. Eventually it may be just two super conferences. Im not sure who blinks first between B1G and SEC, but my guess is the B1G goes to 24 schools (adding VA, NC, Cal, Stanford, Duke, and Ga Tech) using a 4 div pod system for non football sports. I can see SEC responding by going to 20 (Clemson, Fla St, Houston, and maybe Baylor or Va Tech). Big 12 does what it can to add. ACC will be BC, Pitt, Cuse, WF, Louisville, UConn, Umass, South Fla and even ND, who holds on to the Indy fb status.

Bamford needs to go.

JFC Maz, you gotta stop this delusional posting.

What does Umass bring to the table that keeps them in the group of 80? They had to beg to get back into an FBS conference which is already the worst one to add insult to injury. They have a pathetic football stadium which would become THE WORST in FBS-80 - it is probably bottom 10 right now if not the worst. UMass is historically cheap.... HISTORICALLY. And they do not have almost any support from the state. This smoke screen of spending all kinds of money is BS. Sure you are paying up a little for coaches, but the lipstick they applied to the building the last 8 years is starting to wear off and all they are doing is putting on a clean coating.

I have not even gotten to Bamford. He is the start of the problems here not the end.


HOW do you honestly believe they can survive that kind of purge?