2018 Season

[TruBluMaroon]

Don't know if things have changed....but back in the day, the advice was not to get an MBA if you had a undergrad in business, same stuff.

[McKinney]

That isn't what the article is about superfan. The article is about a veteran experienced OLine. Which is what we have as of April 2018. I realize that you idiotically still want to fire the best head coach in program history but attacking the OLine in the off season is even a new level of foolishness even for you.

"I noticed on that schedule that there are no games in May or June or July....so it doesn’t look like the regular season is going to start until September this year. So, that’s four months of team building. There will be other player acquisitions and deletions.... there are no games scheduled in May." BB

Jack, just stop with being a dick--you're better than that .

FYI Mac and DB won more than Whip. (I’m not even counting the FBS record for Whip; counting that Whip falls dramatically down the list. He’s under .500 actually.) Also, McKinney indicated we should be bowling this year and if not then that would be fireable. Jack how long do you keep a coach who has losing record? Do you see any scenario where Whip should stop be relived of his coaching duties or does he get a lifetime contract because he won the 1998 1AA championship?

Well and to be clear the offensive line should not be the direct responsibility of the head coach. So my evaluation and opinions on Whipple have essentially nothing to do with this, other than his frequent inability to make adequate and appropriate staff changes. And admittedly I'm not going to pretend I have all the information on who Whipple, Foley, Michaels, or anyone else is as a coach, person, employee, etc. I can only look at the process output, so to speak.

[Jack]

This is so UMass! They couldn't find one slot for the kid who graduated in three years and played football...I understand that the grad school has high standards but they need to look at the overall student--the UMass student/alum. This just shows how special Froh and Breneman are.

This ^^^^^ 1000 % Dennisdent !! Right on the Money as usual !!

It is literally amazing that Isenberg is so full of themselves that they can't find a place for our starting Rt. Tackle who just completed his Bachelors in 3 years while being a key contributor. The fact that somebody from Subbaswamy's office can't speak with Dean Fuller and get Jack Driscoll admitted to the MBA program is literally insane. Driscoll is an excellent candidate to be a great success and he's also on track to become fantastic UMass Isenberg and Football Alum for decades..... But the pencil pushing geniuses at Isenberg apparently refuse to even consider his unique qualifications and give the kid some courtesy, consideration and a chance.... This is so classic UMass!! Inconsiderate, Shortsighted, self-defeating and idiotically territorial - You really have to wonder about who they are allowing to make decisions. I hope that this gets rectified immediately. Hopefully Subby can help Jack Driscoll out here and have his candidacy re-considered pronto. Classic UMass ......

[Jack]

FYI Mac and DB won more than Whip. (I’m not even counting the FBS record for Whip; counting that Whip falls dramatically down the list. He’s under .500 actually.) Also, McKinney indicated we should be bowling this year and if not then that would be fireable. Jack how long do you keep a coach who has losing record? Do you see any scenario where Whip should stop be relived of his coaching duties or does he get a lifetime contract because he won the 1998 1AA championship?

Mark Whipple took us from A10 basement to winning the National Championship and has now resuscitated a FBS transition that prior to Whipple arriving was a raging dumpster fire. So please stop ignoring that reality and try to avoid making idiotic comments. Whipple has stabilized and steadily improved the program since arriving. You want to fire him now that the program is turning a corner because the team hasn't winning enough to satisfy you??? LOL

I would keep Whipple as my Head Coach as long as he continues to build and improve the football program or until the board's football geniuses who want to fire Whipple can come up with a better option (and how to pay for it) - which you have never done btw. We finally have started achieving success with some nice wins last season... and the lunatics on here still want to fire the coach... It is literally incredible how dumb some of you are. Go UMass !!!!

[McKinney]

FYI Mac and DB won more than Whip. (I’m not even counting the FBS record for Whip; counting that Whip falls dramatically down the list. He’s under .500 actually.) Also, McKinney indicated we should be bowling this year and if not then that would be fireable. Jack how long do you keep a coach who has losing record? Do you see any scenario where Whip should stop be relived of his coaching duties or does he get a lifetime contract because he won the 1998 1AA championship?

Mark Whipple took us from A10 basement to winning the National Championship and has now resuscitated a FBS transition that prior to Whipple arriving was a raging dumpster fire. So please stop ignoring that reality and try to avoid making idiotic comments. Whipple has stabilized and steadily improved the program since arriving. You want to fire him now that the program is turning a corner because the team hasn't winning enough to satisfy you??? LOL

I would keep Whipple as my Head Coach as long as he continues to build and improve the football program or until the board's football geniuses who want to fire Whipple can come up with a better option (and how to pay for it) - which you have never done btw. We finally have started achieving success with some nice wins last season... and the lunatics on here still want to fire the coach... It is literally incredible how dumb some of you are. Go UMass !!!!

You know typically when you want to debunk someone's argument you'd try to inform them of information that they didn't account for when thinking through their rationale. JSF specifically mentioned Whipple's success in his first tenure, and I've stated on multiple occasions on this board and elsewhere that I appreciate the stability he seems to have added to the program. Calling people lunatics and saying their opinions are idiotic isn't adding anything to the discussion and frankly makes you look like an asshole.

[McKinney]

This is so UMass! They couldn't find one slot for the kid who graduated in three years and played football...I understand that the grad school has high standards but they need to look at the overall student--the UMass student/alum. This just shows how special Froh and Breneman are.

This ^^^^^ 1000 % Dennisdent !! Right on the Money as usual !!

It is literally amazing that Isenberg is so full of themselves that they can't find a place for our starting Rt. Tackle who just completed his Bachelors in 3 years while being a key contributor. The fact that somebody from Subbaswamy's office can't speak with Dean Fuller and get Jack Driscoll admitted to the MBA program is literally insane. Driscoll is an excellent candidate to be a great success and he's also on track to become fantastic UMass Isenberg and Football Alum for decades..... But the pencil pushing geniuses at Isenberg apparently refuse to even consider his unique qualifications and give the kid some courtesy, consideration and a chance.... This is so classic UMass!! Inconsiderate, Shortsighted, self-defeating and idiotically territorial - You really have to wonder about who they are allowing to make decisions. I hope that this gets rectified immediately. Hopefully Subby can help Jack Driscoll out here and have his candidacy re-considered pronto. Classic UMass ......

Are we really arguing that the school should be forced to accept someone just because they're an athlete? We don't know why he wasn't accepted, or even if that statement by Whipple is actually why Driscoll is transferring.

I've heard folks say "Isenberg's not even a top school. This is ridiculous", obviously that depends on what you deem as a top school. While it's true Isenberg's MBA is not a Top 50 program, it is #55 and it is an incredibly small program given its ranking. Isenberg has 51 full time MBA students compared to an average of 467 full time MBA students in the Top 50. Why does this matter? Because when their reputation is relying on the success of so few people (students and professors) they're going to be more stringent in their admissions than their rank would imply.

Letting one not-so-great candidate into an enrollment of 51 is going to have a lot more impact on their average GMAT and GRE scores and average GPA than a school like Northwestern which has 1,297 MBA students. It could also have more of an impact on recruiter, salary, and employment scores. You can be sure that if word got out that Isenberg let in an unqualified candidate because he was an athlete it would destroy their reputation among peer institutions. Not to mention the blowback on the athletics department.

Also completing a degree in three years means almost nothing to a master's program. Academic performance has very little to do with how long it takes you to complete your degree. If you fail classes that adds time, but you can also load up every semester and get minimum passing scores, you can double-dip gen eds, you can take summer and winter courses, etc.

The situation sucks, but it is what it is.

[Jack]

Are we really arguing that the school should be forced to accept someone just because they're an athlete? We don't know why he wasn't accepted, or even if that statement by Whipple is actually why Driscoll is transferring.

No, that's not what we're arguing about.

Isenberg's MBA may not be a Top 50 program, but it is #55 and it is an incredibly small program given its ranking. Isenberg has 51 full time MBA students compared to an average of 467 full time MBA students in the Top 50. Why does this matter? Because when their reputation is relying on the success of so few people (students and professors) they're going to be more stringent in their admissions than their rank would imply.

Great. Jack Driscoll is already a success and he will continue to be a success. That's why Isenberg should be looking to admit him. The kid is fantastic in all aspects. The fact that he completed his degree in 3 years while playing FBS Football representing the University is a HUGE positive that is worthy of extensive consideration for numerous reasons. The fact that Isenberg managed to mess this up is truly classic old school UMass...lets do exactly the opposite of what we should be doing and what is good for the University...LOL !!

Letting one not so great candidate into an enrollment of 51 is going to have a lot more impact on their average GMAT and GRE scores and average GPA than a school like Northwestern which has 1,297 MBA students. It could also have more of an impact on recruiter, salary, and employment scores. You can be sure that if word got out that Isenberg let in a bad candidate because he was an athlete it would destroy their reputation among peer institutions. Not to mention the blowback on the athletics department.

You are just making up your own facts and fabricating idiotic scenarios that have nothing to do with reality. The Reality is that Jack Driscoll is an excellent person, and great student, a great ambassador of the University and a he is an excellent candidate for an MBA with Isenberg. Isenberg should be looking for great candidates such as Jack Driscoll ... not turning them down.

Also completing a degree in three years means almost nothing to a master's program. Academic performance has very little to do with how long it takes you to complete your degree. If you fail classes that adds time, but you can also load up every semester and get minimum passing scores, you can double-dip gen eds, you can take summer and winter courses, etc.

What a dumb thing to say. Completing the bachelor's program in three years is a strength and a very positive sign that deserves due consideration by Isenberg. If as you say it "means nothing" to Isenberg - then that shows how out of touch Isenberg is when it comes to giving due consideration to the individual strengths of candidates for the MBA program. Jack Driscoll is a great great kid who deserves credit and consideration for his accomplishments as a student athlete for UMass - the fact that Isenberg is apparently tone deaf to this reality is pathetic.

[vanmeter]

I would suggest that Driscoll graduating a 4 year college in 3 years would suggest he is a pretty strong student and candidate.

[McKinney]

^^ I'm amazed at how personally you know these kids and the coaches. Do you host a team brunch at you home on Sundays or something?

Again with the "idiotic" thing. I've never considered how strong of an argument can be made by just ignoring the merits of your opponent's rationale. Clearly I don't know what I'm talking about. How silly am I to point out that one kid in a school of 51 will have a larger impact on the school's rankings than one kid in a school of 2,000.

Bravo!

[Jack]

You know typically when you want to debunk someone's argument you'd try to inform them of information that they didn't account for when thinking through their rationale. JSF specifically mentioned Whipple's success in his first tenure, and I've stated on multiple occasions on this board and elsewhere that I appreciate the stability he seems to have added to the program. Calling people lunatics and saying their opinions are idiotic isn't adding anything to the discussion and frankly makes you look like an asshole.

Ruh roh here comes the internet tough guy - calling me an "asshole" for not agreeing w/his idiotic viewpoint - Im so impressed! LOL.... Advocating firing Coach Whipple is lunacy and is fundamentally an idiotic opinion. But by all means lets discuss it. Lets bring back Kevin Morris !! LOL !!!!

[Jack]

^^ I'm amazed at how personally you know these kids and the coaches. Do you host a team brunch at you home on Sundays or something?

Again with the "idiotic" thing. I've never considered how strong of an argument can be made by just ignoring the merits of your opponent's rationale. Clearly I don't know what I'm talking about. How silly am I to point out that one kid in a school of 51 will have a larger impact on the school's rankings than one kid in a school of 2,000.

Bravo!

Thank you !! Have you stopped making up your own facts to suit your foolish argument and your pathetic defense of Isenberg's poor decision making?

[McKinney]

^^ I'm amazed at how personally you know these kids and the coaches. Do you host a team brunch at you home on Sundays or something?

Again with the "idiotic" thing. I've never considered how strong of an argument can be made by just ignoring the merits of your opponent's rationale. Clearly I don't know what I'm talking about. How silly am I to point out that one kid in a school of 51 will have a larger impact on the school's rankings than one kid in a school of 2,000.

Bravo!

Thank you !! Have you stopped making up your own facts to suit your foolish argument and your pathetic defense of Isenberg's poor decision making?

What facts did I make up?

[NilesGold]

^^ I'm amazed at how personally you know these kids and the coaches. Do you host a team brunch at you home on Sundays or something?

Again with the "idiotic" thing. I've never considered how strong of an argument can be made by just ignoring the merits of your opponent's rationale. Clearly I don't know what I'm talking about. How silly am I to point out that one kid in a school of 51 will have a larger impact on the school's rankings than one kid in a school of 2,000.

Bravo!

Thank you !! Have you stopped making up your own facts to suit your foolish argument and your pathetic defense of Isenberg's poor decision making?

You yourself don't have all of the facts. McKinney has made some very valid points that you seem to be ignoring.

[Jackson96]

Man, and I thought the hoops board was filled with a bunch of maladjusted weirdos (me included)...

[eldonabe]

Jeez Jack - are you my long lost brother who likes football instead of basketball

Whip was on a really short leash when the team was 0-6. Stabilizing or not, 0-6 sucks balls. The team did find some footing finally, and Whip needs to get credit for it, but even you have to admit that the excuses and moral victories need to stop now - giving Whip 3 or 5 more years and kicking of that extension with another 3-9 season would not exactly be settling to the followers... right?

McKinney is making some pretty logical rebuttals, I think you are a little clouded in your judgement here. I happen to think that if you can do 4 years in 3 while playing football, you ain't no dummy - but nobody seems to know all the facts so maybe we should stop guessing?