Game 19, 2025-26: at Northern Illinois (1/17)

[stevemaz]

Still thinking about NIU game. Why was Wimberly in the last few minutes. How many mistakes has he made?

plus he missed an easy put back.. ugh

[Juice Stand]

I don't watch a lot of games, but listening to some post game press conferences and Asl Frank videos and there are some that are soft. Frank needs to yell at them and challenge them while recruit...

Steve, you have to know that this is a BS post. All opinions are valid, but if you don't watch the games and only listen to press conferences, you lose credibility. "Frank needs to yell at them and challenge them"...come on Steve, that's ALL he does. The problem is that he isn't doing enough strategic and tactical in-game coaching. His substitutions and lineup choices are poor. He keeps timeouts in his pocket. His name calling and general attitude causes the team to tighten up in important moments instead of playing free and confident. I go to every home game, trust me, there's plenty of yelling. What we need is more coaching.

[Steve81]

I don't watch a lot of games, but listening to some post game press conferences and Asl Frank videos and there are some that are soft. Frank needs to yell at them and challenge them while recruit...

Steve, you have to know that this is a BS post. All opinions are valid, but if you don't watch the games and only listen to press conferences, you lose credibility. "Frank needs to yell at them and challenge them"...come on Steve, that's ALL he does. The problem is that he isn't doing enough strategic and tactical in-game coaching. His substitutions and lineup choices are poor. He keeps timeouts in his pocket. His name calling and general attitude causes the team to tighten up in important moments instead of playing free and confident. I go to every home game, trust me, there's plenty of yelling. What we need is more coaching.

I play pool on Tuesdays. I rather play a sport than be a watching spectator. That said have watch some games and been to the Kent State game. Our largest loss of 10 points. All others have been close and will be there for Buffalo game. Was disappointed that I had to signup for full ESPN when Youtube TV was in a dispute with ESPN so I could watch the game. Then it was added and had to cancel my subscription because simply changing to ESPN Select did not work. I''ll signup for just 1 month on Jan 31st, first non Tuesday game that I'll be able to watch on ESPN.

They are soft if they tighten up with some yelling beyond a few minutes before they re-adjust their attitude. People trash talk all the time while playing pool. If it's bad enough, sometimes I play better mad, but most of the time, I'm unaffected like you guys trash talking. But if they are that soft, how do you think they feel reading all you guys negative comments.

Don't be two faced. You guys can dish it out with all your posts and then say the coach can't. F_ck me.

[Juice Stand]

I've said multiple times here that I'm ok with the yelling and screaming as long as it's instructive and productive, which it typically isn't, and the team very clearly has reached a point of tuning him out. I think they're still playing hard for each other, but not so much for him. If your answer to the lengthy sample size of poor results is "Frank needs to yell at them", then I don't think we can have a productive conversation about this. But good luck with your pool league, I hope you do well.

[InnervisionsUMASS]

Well this thread took a turn.

[inthescoop]

I don't watch a lot of games, but listening to some post game press conferences and Asl Frank videos and there are some that are soft. Frank needs to yell at them and challenge them while recruit...

Steve, you have to know that this is a BS post. All opinions are valid, but if you don't watch the games and only listen to press conferences, you lose credibility. "Frank needs to yell at them and challenge them"...come on Steve, that's ALL he does. The problem is that he isn't doing enough strategic and tactical in-game coaching. His substitutions and lineup choices are poor. He keeps timeouts in his pocket. His name calling and general attitude causes the team to tighten up in important moments instead of playing free and confident. I go to every home game, trust me, there's plenty of yelling. What we need is more coaching.

I play pool on Tuesdays. I rather play a sport than be a watching spectator. That said have watch some games and been to the Kent State game. Our largest loss of 10 points. All others have been close and will be there for Buffalo game. Was disappointed that I had to signup for full ESPN when Youtube TV was in a dispute with ESPN so I could watch the game. Then it was added and had to cancel my subscription because simply changing to ESPN Select did not work. I''ll signup for just 1 month on Jan 31st, first non Tuesday game that I'll be able to watch on ESPN.

They are soft if they tighten up with some yelling beyond a few minutes before they re-adjust their attitude. People trash talk all the time while playing pool. If it's bad enough, sometimes I play better mad, but most of the time, I'm unaffected like you guys trash talking. But if they are that soft, how do you think they feel reading all you guys negative comments.

Don't be two faced. You guys can dish it out with all your posts and then say the coach can't. F_ck me.

So, in recap, you haven't watched the team much and you believe that you have the team all figured out and we're the ones wrong? lol - you're right, bring in some of the trash talkers from your pool league to practice to man these kids up, and maybe throw in another military photo from the 80's and I think this time the team will be back on the right track. I'm sorry dude, UMass athletics is a shitshow right now and it sucks

[Steve81]

Enjoy your misery because buying out Franks 6M remaining contract is a non starter.

Basketball has been on the down turn for a long time. Even during Frank's best year and a couple 7k attendance figures, the average was in the mid 3k range. Final year in the A10 2.7k. The average fan can careless about a basketball player, who is not a team player and out for himself, making 6 figures, more than they will ever make. That is why I focus on team chemistry and team work. This is why Joe H from day one emphasized culture and how a few guys making key individual celebrations and mistakes cost a couple of games. Believe the culture is real with Joe and want to see the same out of Frank.

[InnervisionsUMASS]

Wow.

[PreecherJenkins]

Enjoy your misery because buying out Franks 6M remaining contract is a non starter.

Basketball has been on the down turn for a long time. Even during Frank's best year and a couple 7k attendance figures, the average was in the mid 3k range. Final year in the A10 2.7k. The average fan can careless about a basketball player, who is not a team player and out for himself, making 6 figures, more than they will ever make. That is why I focus on team chemistry and team work. This is why Joe H from day one emphasized culture and how a few guys making key individual celebrations and mistakes cost a couple of games. Believe the culture is real with Joe and want to see the same out of Frank.

did ryan fully gurantee another coach's contract? where are you getting your numbers from?

[Steve81]

We have all seen the Massachusetts highest paid public employees and Frank's was 2.14M last year for a bad season. You can do the lookup. It should be easy these days with AI and google. Material does not make much difference and view it as busy work.

[NilesGold]

We have all seen the Massachusetts highest paid public employees and Frank's was 2.14M last year for a bad season. You can do the lookup. It should be easy these days with AI and google. Material does not make much difference and view it as busy work.

His salary and his buyout are two different things. Even what is in his contract can be negotiated as long as UMass can figure out how to make it appealing for Frank to leave... maybe retiring this off-season and getting paid another $2-$3M without working another day is preferable to working another 2-3 seasons for $6M in what I can only assume is a miserable environment right now.

As for all the other nonsense you spouted, this is Frank's program, from the coaching staff down to the fucking walk-ons, Frank owns every single thing. If the players are soft (which I don't really believe), well then that reflects poorly on Frank because with the biggest NIL pool in the MAC these are the guys he wanted.

[Steve81]

We have all seen the Massachusetts highest paid public employees and Frank's was 2.14M last year for a bad season. You can do the lookup. It should be easy these days with AI and google. Material does not make much difference and view it as busy work.

His salary and his buyout are two different things. Even what is in his contract can be negotiated as long as UMass can figure out how to make it appealing for Frank to leave... maybe retiring this off-season and getting paid another $2-$3M without working another day is preferable to working another 2-3 seasons for $6M in what I can only assume is a miserable environment right now.

As for all the other nonsense you spouted, this is Frank's program, from the coaching staff down to the fucking walk-ons, Frank owns every single thing. If the players are soft (which I don't really believe), well then that reflects poorly on Frank because with the biggest NIL pool in the MAC these are the guys he wanted.

The flip side is that if he coaches and figures things out, perhaps take a lesser salary to get to 10 years. The Mass Pension system is generous with highest paid salary for a few years. Wake me up when someone donates 3M or more.

Just don't think the ROI is there and basketball is not that valuable for media contracts. Say new coach adds 2k more fans per game is 40k times 16. It would take more time than his contract to break even (4.685 years). Not to mention you still have to pay the new coach. All that said could be wrong and will wake up and notice and it will make many of you happy, as long as it is not your 3M. Taxpayer money is everyone's money and hate how freely you all call for some else to pay for things.

[NilesGold]

^ They cannot afford to pay Frank his full salary plus his replacement at the same time. But if they can get rid of Frank for $2-$3M they could hire a new coach for $750k-$1M and break even or possibly even save money.