KAEO: Tre Mitchell

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by natwam2547 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:43 pm

TheOFFSeason wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:40 pm
natwam2547 wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:31 pm Maybe, and I mean Maybe the guys on the team (including some of the Woodstock guys) read between the lines and always knew that Tre was out to get his, and this doesn't really change much? I don't know. I know this is wishful thinking. But Fernandes' dad tweeted that out, DD's father liked it and so did TJ. Also - Gasperini liked it. So he didn't lose the whole locker room. Maybe some will see Tre leaving as an opportunity for more minutes and a bigger role, and were not happy with the McCall/TB/Tre power struggle and will want to start fresh. This is admittedly very glass half full.
MM didn’t lose the players...Tre’s relationship with him is fine...not the reason for any of this
I know you are one of the few voices of reason on here, so I do appreciate you chiming in. It's all speculation, so why the news of the potential mass fall out if he didn't lose the players? Tre is on an island, I can see that, with his talent/potential and the connection to TB.

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:48 pm

There is no personal issue between Tre and McCall. OFFSeason is accurate about that.
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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by TheInsider » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:52 pm

I'm guessing the reason for this is the size of TB's potential pay check

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by Floyd » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:53 pm

I think of that game against URI with Tre out and how well the team played and shared the ball/scoring. They can win if they stick together and get some size via trsnsfers
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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by natwam2547 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:53 pm

^ (TheInsider) Which is all well and good. Tre needs to do what he needs to do and if TB can get more money somewhere else, whatever, good for him I guess. I'm just wondering what the connection is to all the other guys who might be leaving. If it's all just a Woodstock hypothetical, and no one really knows anything that's one thing. But if he truly didn't "lose the locker room" and relationships are fine, why is there any reason to believe more are out the door?

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by 69MG » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:56 pm

InnervisionsUMASS wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:48 pm There is no personal issue between Tre and McCall. OFFSeason is accurate about that.
If that's the case, and I have no reason to think it isn't, then this has to have been orchestrated by TB. If anyone thinks TB will be here next season you are fooling yourself. The only important question right now is which other players do we lose.

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by JoleonLescottsHair » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:56 pm

I am sad because this could potentially mean other departures and another rough year, but TB and Tre can go fucking drop dead as far as I am concerned. Carl Pierre, Loe Roe, guys like that are the UMass greats. Tre is just another free agent in my book. Someone mentioned his contribution to UMass in another post. Horse shit. He didn’t lead the program to any glory in his 1.5 years all while getting himself a nice free ride and audition for his next stop. No Tre Mitchell jersey in our rafters. And, TB and his twitter grievance bride can just go about their little duplicity stroll and gravy train fest. People like that will hopefully eventually get what’s due.

Ryan Bamford or Matt McCall might deserve to get canned for any number of reasons, but they are 1000% right not to put the school at the mercy of some 20 year old and his fuckhead manager. I don’t give a shit how good a player he might be or what it means to the team’s prospects. You DO NOT run a department or institution like that. Anyone who thinks otherwise has been infected by the rot of AAU culture and and transfer portal bullshit.

Go Colgate, or any team out there with a group of 4 year players on its roster.

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by TheInsider » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:56 pm

I think it's because a lot of those guys only came for Tony.. if hes gone and you know it's a sinking ship and because while you may like the head coach you just don't see him getting it done.

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:58 pm

69MG wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:56 pm
If that's the case, and I have no reason to think it isn't, then this has to have been orchestrated by TB.

Not necessarily. I understand it as Tre just doesn't think he can improve to get to the next level under McCall. He doesn't hate McCall, their relationship isn't fractured. It's certainly a Tre or McCall situation, but it doesn't stem from them having a falling out, per say.
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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by Floyd » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:02 pm

Well, Tony was still here so why couldn't he if he doesn't believe in MM?
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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by Upstate10 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:06 pm

If it’s not an issue between MM and the players why do all signs point to a mass exodus? I’m not disputing the information, and I appreciate you guys telling us what you know, just trying to wrap my head around it all.

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by 69MG » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:11 pm

InnervisionsUMASS wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:58 pm
69MG wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:56 pm
If that's the case, and I have no reason to think it isn't, then this has to have been orchestrated by TB.

Not necessarily. I understand it as Tre just doesn't think he can improve to get to the next level under McCall. He doesn't hate McCall, their relationship isn't fractured. It's certainly a Tre or McCall situation, but it doesn't stem from them having a falling out, per say.
We're all speculating here so here's why I feel this way. After working for MM for 2 years, Tony (and Tre) don't think this is the best place for Tre's road to the NBA. Tony goes through back channels to seek out the best fit and Tre enters the portal. It sounds like a movie plot, I know, but we're all making guesses here so that's my guess.

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by Upstate10 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:18 pm

It sucks that other guys are going to leave. If you put that core with an impact transfer or two we might have been able to sniff the bubble.

Really hope something changes and we don’t have to reset... again

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by natwam2547 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:42 pm

InnervisionsUMASS wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:48 pm There is no personal issue between Tre and McCall. OFFSeason is accurate about that.
6 to one, half a dozen to another IMO here. "I don't hate you, I just think you're a pretty shitty coach and can't take me where I want to go" all falls under the same umbrella in this case.

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by TheOFFSeason » Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:10 pm

Floyd wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:02 pm Well, Tony was still here so why couldn't he if he doesn't believe in MM?
1. Tre isn’t leaving because he is concerned about developing here.

2. The 5 guys in the Collegian article that are listed as possible transfers would have been candidates to transfer if Tre had stayed but Degray seemed to be close to Tre and Tony so that one is most likely to have had the most influence by this if it happens

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