2021-2022 Season

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Re: 2021-2022 Season

Post by DanaDingle3 » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:56 pm

Kelz626 wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:12 pm
DanaDingle3 wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:37 am
Kelz626 wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:22 am

All you have to do is look on Twitter. Parents of players are talking about “lies” McCall told
No, they're not. McCall is not implicated in the tweets, and you and others appear to be making bad faith arguments to support your own personal agendas.
Oh right so it must be a complete coincidence it was posted right after the loss to St Louis and basketball related, but not about McCall. Please.
It wasn't right after. He tweeted two days later about never allowing someone to lie about one's own kids. That's it. You have no idea to what he's referring if that's all the information you have.

If McCall's dumb enough to be creating this kind of perception amongst parents, and creating this type of reputation for himself, he will lose the team, the job, and more. Bamford, by account, stated today McCall will be back. Do you think he would make a statement like that if there was going to be a "mass exodus?" Don't think for a minute he's not talking with players, coaches, and parents. He certainly could simply be fortifying the ship against any waves, but unless and until something emerges, it's just the usual social media stuff.

I'm done with this. We'll see what happens.

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Re: 2021-2022 Season

Post by Juice Stand » Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:05 pm

Floyd wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:48 am Who could really complain about their minutes, and who's minutes should they have gotten? Gotta earn 'em
The only player I can possibly imagine having a complaint about minutes is TJ Weeks. There were some games where Carl clearly didn't have it, but McCall stuck with him and TJ rode the bench. If that's the case, then TJ should see a dramatic rise in minutes with Carl's departure, so it's a non-issue.

Dibaji didn't get a lot of minutes early, but earned his playing time as the season went on. Ditto for Cairo. Maybe Dominguez and Kolton think they should have gotten more minutes, and if Dominguez thinks that's the case, then fine, whatever, and Kolton has been snake bit since he got here with the injured wrist last year, and then concussion and contact tracing protocols keeping him out at times this year.

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Re: 2021-2022 Season

Post by uz2b-len » Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:18 pm

I think our rational views are totally irrelevant here. We will just have to wait and see. Kind of like waiting for the results of a medical lab test. Well, not that bad.
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Re: 2021-2022 Season

Post by NilesGold » Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:24 pm

uz2b-len wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:18 pm I think our rational views are totally irrelevant here.
Bingo

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Re: 2021-2022 Season

Post by Upstate10 » Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:37 pm

If Bamford is committing to McCall WITHOUT knowing if that decision will cause key players to transfer he needs to be gone too. He needs to have his finger on that pulse. If we see a flurry of guys leaving now that McCall is confirmed back Bamford needs to get the boot with him.

Also, what happened with MM in Chattanooga?

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Re: 2021-2022 Season

Post by NilesGold » Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:38 pm

Upstate10 wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:37 pm If Bamford is committing to McCall WITHOUT knowing if that decision will cause key players to transfer he needs to be gone too. He needs to have his finger on that pulse. If we see a flurry of guys leaving now that McCall is confirmed back Bamford needs to get the boot with him.

Also, what happened with MM in Chattanooga?
Bamford's comments aren't binding.

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Re: 2021-2022 Season

Post by Upstate10 » Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:43 pm

NilesGold wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:38 pm
Upstate10 wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:37 pm If Bamford is committing to McCall WITHOUT knowing if that decision will cause key players to transfer he needs to be gone too. He needs to have his finger on that pulse. If we see a flurry of guys leaving now that McCall is confirmed back Bamford needs to get the boot with him.

Also, what happened with MM in Chattanooga?
Bamford's comments aren't binding.
Just a verbal commitment, no Letter of Intent yet :lol:

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Re: 2021-2022 Season

Post by PreecherJenkins » Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:46 pm

^ It is the pat kelsey MOU.
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Post by JoleonLescottsHair » Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:47 pm

Upstate10 wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:37 pm If Bamford is committing to McCall WITHOUT knowing if that decision will cause key players to transfer he needs to be gone too. He needs to have his finger on that pulse. If we see a flurry of guys leaving now that McCall is confirmed back Bamford needs to get the boot with him.

Also, what happened with MM in Chattanooga?
Maybe he does. But, hell, why not just speculate that he doesn’t based on theories being pulled out of the ass of people on this board? Jesus christ, this board is losing its fucking mind.

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Re: 2021-2022 Season

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Post by Upstate10 » Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:37 pm
If Bamford is committing to McCall WITHOUT knowing if that decision will cause key players to transfer he needs to be gone too. He needs to have his finger on that pulse. If we see a flurry of guys leaving now that McCall is confirmed back Bamford needs to get the boot with him.
I have to think that this is the case, but I've also come to the conclusion that nothing makes sense this year. So a Len says, let's wait for the results of the medical lab test.

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Re: 2021-2022 Season

Post by Upstate10 » Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:29 pm

JoleonLescottsHair wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:47 pm
Upstate10 wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:37 pm If Bamford is committing to McCall WITHOUT knowing if that decision will cause key players to transfer he needs to be gone too. He needs to have his finger on that pulse. If we see a flurry of guys leaving now that McCall is confirmed back Bamford needs to get the boot with him.

Also, what happened with MM in Chattanooga?
Maybe he does. But, hell, why not just speculate that he doesn’t based on theories being pulled out of the ass of people on this board? Jesus christ, this board is losing its fucking mind.
Given the last 12 months of the life in general and the shit show that was this season it would be weird if this board wasn't losing its mind

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Re: 2021-2022 Season

Post by Steve81 » Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:32 pm

DanaDingle3 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:02 pm I agree it's senseless to read into vague social media posts. If there's something there, it'll come out one way or another. I also haven't seen or heard rumors of more than the typical amount of transfers a program sees every year - two or three.

If there's a "mass exodus," or threat of one, the administration will be in a bind. They want continuity. Heck, BC gave Christian 7 seasons, without nearly as much potential as we have now and without some of the indicators of improvement we've had (winning 7 of 8 to close last year and 5 of 6 before the final pause this year). It would come down to elevating TB or blowing up everything, which they don't want to do, especially because McCall's under contract for two more seasons in a tight financial environment.

My sense is we'll see two to three transfers, with the core returning under McCall for a make or break year.
Like the above quote.

For the fire crowd, not saying it's incorrect but will say the following two points. One is we had a number of changes at the AD, HC BB and HC Football and how it can be spun. Why would you take the position at UMass - Mass and Fire place to work: Just take a look at this list and it's not a perennial success in the area or in a power conference.

Athletic Directors this century
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Bob Marcum
Ian McCaw
Thorr Bjorn* acting 1 yr.
John McCutcheon
Ryan Bamford

Head Basketball Coaches
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Bruiser Flint
Steve Lappas
Travis Ford
Derek Kellogg
(Kelsey poisoned the well)
Matt McCall

Head Football Coaches
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Mark Whipple
Don Brown
Kevin Morris
Charlie Molnar
Mark Whipple
Walt Bell

Given the list feel we are better now than half the history.

Personal tendency is to give everyone at least 5-6 years with the students, players, job, assistant coaches, staffs, area and make adjustments There are exceptions.
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Re: 2021-2022 Season

Post by eldonabe » Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:26 pm

NilesGold wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:38 pm
Upstate10 wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:37 pm If Bamford is committing to McCall WITHOUT knowing if that decision will cause key players to transfer he needs to be gone too. He needs to have his finger on that pulse. If we see a flurry of guys leaving now that McCall is confirmed back Bamford needs to get the boot with him.

Also, what happened with MM in Chattanooga?
Bamford's comments aren't binding.
How many times has an owner of a Pro Team come out with a vote of confidence and fired the same guy weeks later.....



That said, MM gets next year for sure. I think there will be one semi-surprise defection (Weeks stands out as that possibility). I also think there will be a surprise addition (either a recruit or a transfer in).

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Re: 2021-2022 Season

Post by eldonabe » Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:28 pm

JoleonLescottsHair wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:47 pm
Upstate10 wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:37 pm If Bamford is committing to McCall WITHOUT knowing if that decision will cause key players to transfer he needs to be gone too. He needs to have his finger on that pulse. If we see a flurry of guys leaving now that McCall is confirmed back Bamford needs to get the boot with him.

Also, what happened with MM in Chattanooga?
Maybe he does. But, hell, why not just speculate that he doesn’t based on theories being pulled out of the ass of people on this board? Jesus christ, this board is losing its fucking mind.
Um, you have been posting here long enough that this should not surprise you in the least!

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Re: 2021-2022 Season

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:31 pm

I hope no one leaves. Just one stable offseason, please. That's all I ask.
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