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Re: 2025 Season

Post by Steve81 » Sun Nov 02, 2025 12:52 pm

minutefanjsf wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 9:11 am
DanaDingle3 wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 2:57 pm
minutefanjsf wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:11 am
My understanding now, It seems the failures occurred before 7/1 because the money was not able to be used to recruit.
How could "the failures" have occurred before 7/1 when UMass wasn't legally allowed to pay directly until 7/1? According to every reputable source, everything promised was paid. You've chosen to spread a lot of misinformation on this topic. Maybe sit this one out for a while.
NIL existed before 7/1. UMass decided to break ties with its NIL. MRC did not close up shop with no direction from the school. Before 7/1 they were the source of NIL. The recruiting period that came after MRC shuttering and 7/1 was where the breakdowns occurred. https://dailycollegian.com/2024/12/umas ... n-tuesday/ Here is the collegians reporting. Maybe I haven’t been clear sharing what I understand. Sorry for that. Like I said I’m not an insider. Bamford said publicly that 2 million would be spent on football this year. The school spent 1.5. There were glitches, not just at UMass, getting that money online for 7/1. Shuttering the collective right before the new coach was hired and the signing period in December is what I mean by failures before 7/1. Those decisions were on Bamford.
https://dailycollegian.com/2025/06/the- ... handle-it/ Here is where it was publicly reported that football would have 2 million plus for this current season.
Read the article and the source is NOT UMass Athletic and most of the articles is about issues with the Midnight Ride and the feud with the source of the quote. 1M low range and 2M high range for combined football and basketball in the future in a he said she said feud
“UMass will soon allocate $1-2 [million] for NIL funding to football and basketball,” an email written by Midnight Ride obtained by the Daily Collegian read.
The article concludes with the this:
There’s been a large falling out between both parties, who didn’t seem to see eye to eye on many topics. This adds another offseason change to UMass’ football program, with a new collective joining a new head coach in a new conference in 2025.
The second article is unclear if the 5-6M is for NIL or athletics scholarships or the settlement to pay across all sports. I can see where you'd see one thing, but this quote seems to be more about the settlement cost and again not clear on any of it. The part that makes the whole thing unclear is the 5-6M range is nowhere close to the 2M for NIL Fiscal 2026.
According to Bamford, the University plans to spend $5-to-6 million of the approximate $20 million cap on its athletes in 2025-26. He plans on that number rising to $8-to-10 million the following academic year.
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Where the money comes from

Getting to that $5 million mark, or any number that schools aim for, has been difficult for many departments. Costs have to be cut somewhere, leading to programs being shuttered, staff pools being downsized and more.
Do believe you, minutefanjsf, regarding the over 500k was available this year. Is it correct to assume money available before July 1st was Fiscal 2025 to secure players for this fiscal year 2025-26 fiscal year. IF so, this would lead me to hope and believe 2M is available.
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Re: 2025 Season

Post by minutefanjsf » Sun Nov 02, 2025 1:29 pm

Steve81 wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 12:52 pm
minutefanjsf wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 9:11 am
DanaDingle3 wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 2:57 pm

How could "the failures" have occurred before 7/1 when UMass wasn't legally allowed to pay directly until 7/1? According to every reputable source, everything promised was paid. You've chosen to spread a lot of misinformation on this topic. Maybe sit this one out for a while.
NIL existed before 7/1. UMass decided to break ties with its NIL. MRC did not close up shop with no direction from the school. Before 7/1 they were the source of NIL. The recruiting period that came after MRC shuttering and 7/1 was where the breakdowns occurred. https://dailycollegian.com/2024/12/umas ... n-tuesday/ Here is the collegians reporting. Maybe I haven’t been clear sharing what I understand. Sorry for that. Like I said I’m not an insider. Bamford said publicly that 2 million would be spent on football this year. The school spent 1.5. There were glitches, not just at UMass, getting that money online for 7/1. Shuttering the collective right before the new coach was hired and the signing period in December is what I mean by failures before 7/1. Those decisions were on Bamford.
https://dailycollegian.com/2025/06/the- ... handle-it/ Here is where it was publicly reported that football would have 2 million plus for this current season.
Read the article and the source is NOT UMass Athletic and most of the articles is about issues with the Midnight Ride and the feud with the source of the quote. 1M low range and 2M high range for combined football and basketball in the future in a he said she said feud
“UMass will soon allocate $1-2 [million] for NIL funding to football and basketball,” an email written by Midnight Ride obtained by the Daily Collegian read.
The article concludes with the this:
There’s been a large falling out between both parties, who didn’t seem to see eye to eye on many topics. This adds another offseason change to UMass’ football program, with a new collective joining a new head coach in a new conference in 2025.
The second article is unclear if the 5-6M is for NIL or athletics scholarships or the settlement to pay across all sports. I can see where you'd see one thing, but this quote seems to be more about the settlement cost and again not clear on any of it. The part that makes the whole thing unclear is the 5-6M range is nowhere close to the 2M for NIL Fiscal 2026.
According to Bamford, the University plans to spend $5-to-6 million of the approximate $20 million cap on its athletes in 2025-26. He plans on that number rising to $8-to-10 million the following academic year.
...
Where the money comes from

Getting to that $5 million mark, or any number that schools aim for, has been difficult for many departments. Costs have to be cut somewhere, leading to programs being shuttered, staff pools being downsized and more.
The overall budget will be 5-6 million and football getting half. You’re right it isn’t umass athletics. I’ve posted RBs press releases before.

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Re: 2025 Season

Post by Steve81 » Sun Nov 02, 2025 1:35 pm

Since you quoted my post after I changed it will repeat this here, with the point money available in one fiscal year is for the following fiscal year, but same calendar year.

Do believe you, minutefanjsf, regarding the over 500k was available this year. Is it correct to assume money available before July 1st was Fiscal 2025 to secure players for this fiscal year 2025-26 fiscal year. IF so, this would lead me to hope and believe 2M is available.
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Re: 2025 Season

Post by doubledribble » Sun Nov 02, 2025 4:35 pm

minutefanjsf wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 1:29 pm
Steve81 wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 12:52 pm
minutefanjsf wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 9:11 am

NIL existed before 7/1. UMass decided to break ties with its NIL. MRC did not close up shop with no direction from the school. Before 7/1 they were the source of NIL. The recruiting period that came after MRC shuttering and 7/1 was where the breakdowns occurred. https://dailycollegian.com/2024/12/umas ... n-tuesday/ Here is the collegians reporting. Maybe I haven’t been clear sharing what I understand. Sorry for that. Like I said I’m not an insider. Bamford said publicly that 2 million would be spent on football this year. The school spent 1.5. There were glitches, not just at UMass, getting that money online for 7/1. Shuttering the collective right before the new coach was hired and the signing period in December is what I mean by failures before 7/1. Those decisions were on Bamford.
https://dailycollegian.com/2025/06/the- ... handle-it/ Here is where it was publicly reported that football would have 2 million plus for this current season.
Read the article and the source is NOT UMass Athletic and most of the articles is about issues with the Midnight Ride and the feud with the source of the quote. 1M low range and 2M high range for combined football and basketball in the future in a he said she said feud
“UMass will soon allocate $1-2 [million] for NIL funding to football and basketball,” an email written by Midnight Ride obtained by the Daily Collegian read.
The article concludes with the this:
There’s been a large falling out between both parties, who didn’t seem to see eye to eye on many topics. This adds another offseason change to UMass’ football program, with a new collective joining a new head coach in a new conference in 2025.
The second article is unclear if the 5-6M is for NIL or athletics scholarships or the settlement to pay across all sports. I can see where you'd see one thing, but this quote seems to be more about the settlement cost and again not clear on any of it. The part that makes the whole thing unclear is the 5-6M range is nowhere close to the 2M for NIL Fiscal 2026.
According to Bamford, the University plans to spend $5-to-6 million of the approximate $20 million cap on its athletes in 2025-26. He plans on that number rising to $8-to-10 million the following academic year.
...
Where the money comes from

Getting to that $5 million mark, or any number that schools aim for, has been difficult for many departments. Costs have to be cut somewhere, leading to programs being shuttered, staff pools being downsized and more.
The overall budget will be 5-6 million and football getting half. You’re right it isn’t umass athletics. I’ve posted RBs press releases before.
Blah blah blah.

Sorry to say but it’s time for members of this board to come to their senses.
No amount of money is gonna turn this disastrous program around!

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Re: 2025 Season

Post by Steve81 » Sun Nov 02, 2025 4:56 pm

doubledribble wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 4:35 pm
minutefanjsf wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 1:29 pm
Steve81 wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 12:52 pm

Read the article and the source is NOT UMass Athletic and most of the articles is about issues with the Midnight Ride and the feud with the source of the quote. 1M low range and 2M high range for combined football and basketball in the future in a he said she said feud


The article concludes with the this:


The second article is unclear if the 5-6M is for NIL or athletics scholarships or the settlement to pay across all sports. I can see where you'd see one thing, but this quote seems to be more about the settlement cost and again not clear on any of it. The part that makes the whole thing unclear is the 5-6M range is nowhere close to the 2M for NIL Fiscal 2026.
The overall budget will be 5-6 million and football getting half. You’re right it isn’t umass athletics. I’ve posted RBs press releases before.
Blah blah blah.

Sorry to say but it’s time for members of this board to come to their senses.
No amount of money is gonna turn this disastrous program around!
Disagree doubledribble and tell Matt Cross that money does not make a difference. The lack of money investment and the need to play so many payday games are what got UMass into independence hole. The money has not changed for the NIL player investments for this season, since we had low A10 conference revenue. We are members of the MAC, but have yet to take a year end distribution. The football side alone pays for the additional revenue to fund athletics and will turn the program around.

I also believe we can win a game or 2 this season. Despite the ending of the Buffalo game, the players played their asses off. There have been many games in the past and this season that we were close and a few more quality players can make a difference.
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Re: 2025 Season

Post by minutefanjsf » Sun Nov 02, 2025 5:48 pm

Steve81 wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 1:35 pm Since you quoted my post after I changed it will repeat this here, with the point money available in one fiscal year is for the following fiscal year, but same calendar year.

Do believe you, minutefanjsf, regarding the over 500k was available this year. Is it correct to assume money available before July 1st was Fiscal 2025 to secure players for this fiscal year 2025-26 fiscal year. IF so, this would lead me to hope and believe 2M is available.
I am hopeful that my belief is accurate that they spent 500k before July to meet the publicly stated number of 2 million for this team. I want to believe that there is some level of transparency. At the same time I kind of hope they didn’t spend that kind of money because this team doesn’t look like a team worth that much.

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Re: 2025 Season

Post by itisnotluck » Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:13 pm

Why aren't we playing UConn this year? At least that would have been one win.

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Re: 2025 Season

Post by Quann » Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:57 pm

itisnotluck wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:13 pm Why aren't we playing UConn this year? At least that would have been one win.
UConn is 6-3, they’d smoke us. They’re back on the schedule next season, we play them at the Rent. God willing we’re hopefully a functional program by then.

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Re: 2025 Season

Post by Steve81 » Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:13 am

itisnotluck wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:13 pm Why aren't we playing UConn this year? At least that would have been one win.
We needed to off load the Independent schedule and solve 2 as we also had Boston College. Instead BC and UConn played. They will be back on the schedule. Do hope we can off load 1 of the 2 P$ on the 2028 schedule and insert UConn.

Here is a good site for our schedules in the future, past, and current year.
https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/umass/
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Re: 2025 Season

Post by MikeUMA » Tue Nov 04, 2025 11:34 pm

Now that we're 0-9, what's the chance that we're going 0-12? 75%? More/less?

The remaining schedule:
Home for Northern Illinois (2-6 overall, 0-4 road)
At Ohio (6-3 overall, 5-0 home). Book the L now.
Home for Bowling Green (3-6 overall, 0-4 road)

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Re: 2025 Season

Post by jjmc85 » Tue Nov 04, 2025 11:35 pm

I’d guess more than 75% unfortunately. 90%?
UMass Football: 22-3 at home when I was a student.

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Re: 2025 Season

Post by R&G » Wed Nov 05, 2025 7:12 am

100%. This is the worst football team I have ever seen. It actually doesn’t even resemble football.

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Re: 2025 Season

Post by eldonabe » Wed Nov 05, 2025 8:11 am

After the Akron game debacle, here is a Massey Update:

Below is our results based on the Massey Expected Spread before the game.

Temple (+1) lost by 32
Bryant (18) Lost by 1
at Iowa (+39) lost by 40
at Missouri (+42) lost by 36
W Michigan (+13) Lost by 18
at kent (-1) Lost by 36
Buffalo (+15) Lost by 7
at C Michigan (+18) Lost by 25
at Akron (+10) Lost by 34


They have only covered 2 spreads and cumulatively are under spread by 107 points. If you use the preseason originally prognosticated spreads they did not cover a single game and under by 151 points

This program is not competitive.

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Re: 2025 Season

Post by Floyd » Wed Nov 05, 2025 10:41 am

itisnotluck wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:13 pm Why aren't we playing UConn this year? At least that would have been one win.
Ahhh... no
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Re: 2025 Season

Post by Camby4Life » Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:00 am

Sam Houston was down 17-0 at Oregon st and were 21 point underdogs. Final score 21-17.

Umass is now the only winless FBS team. Another week at #1 for the bottom 10.

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