Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

[Juice Stand]

I still like Coach Harasymiak and think he can do the job, but nobody wants to hear about this silly little analytics book. It's fine to use it, but don't ever mention it again.

[eldonabe]

Coach Joe might be getting some bad advice from folks above him...

If that is in fact the case - Above him is one person.... and we all know who that is.

[InnervisionsUMASS]

I still like Coach Harasymiak and think he can do the job, but nobody wants to hear about this silly little analytics book. It's fine to use it, but don't ever mention it again.

Agreed, on all accounts.

[Steve81]

I have turned on this guy after watching that 7 minute clip.

What a condescending little man.

To paraphrase: I use a book, 100 teams use a book, those guys grade me not you the broadcaster, not you the fan. Professionals grade me.

Dude, if you want to be aggressive, than do it! Why not throw the ball on first down? What about throwing it on second down? No, wait until its 3-14. The Buffs picked up 3-18, but what does your book say about the odds of picking up 3-14?

Did anyone catch bam bam on the sidelines jumping after the INT, we could save a lot of money if he wants to be head cheerleader. what a clown show this is.

Lastly, look in the mirror, we are all stupid

No, you don't listen very well. He said 130 teams use the book and 3 MAC teams do not pay for the book. I don't know what 7 minute clip you listened to but the live feed was 33 plus minutes and the repost later in the day was 31 plus minutes. It was not a clip, but a press conference.

Calling you out! Post the clip that he said 100 teams and source of your so call 7 minute clip. Post it and do not believe you as know the information from the press conference is a false Preecher.

It is right here Steve, four posts above. "over 100 temas have it and 3 Mac teams don't" 2 minute 33 second of the clip below. If there is something missing in the content here lmk. I am not wasting 35 minutes listening to this angry little coach complain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv0fFr8S0G0

Don't like your negativity towards the program. To end that post with the bolded shows you are looking to say negative things and not supportive of the program. I actively support basketball, football and other sports. Prefer not focusing on negativity, which is my nature.

Thanks for the clip! We both were originally wrong with our memory of the videos. You original said 100 and knew it was over a 100 and glad you corrected in the above quote to be "over" 100. We know our tendencies and it's fine to disagree. I worry that some people do not want to see the football program to grab the light away from basketball. I don't think it's an either or, and both can be very successful.

However, in this NIL world and competing for recruits, do worry whatever the sport, but on this forum, football having a consistent negative slant and how it may affect recruiting and the program worries me. Appreciated people’s excitement in the moment and being in the stadium. But your take on that moment gives me distain for you in how you post here. Fans were excited, the players and yes Bamford, who I did not notice. We know Ryan is your focus, eldonabe and others attacks. Man, twisting a great moment and turn it to a negative attack on our AD. We both know where we stand. It was a wonderful positive moment.

I like that Coach H and Frank, who do not give us coach speak. We see and hear how much they each care about their sports, teams and want to win. My pre-season hope of 4-6 wins went out the window after Bryant. Saw some encouragement in the Iowa and Missouri game against vastly better teams. Kent State knocked me back. The Buffalo performance, the coach's press conference gave me positive hope for the future. But hope for x number of wins are gone. My hope for performances or as the coach says process and not wins is this year’s focus. Like performances as the Buffalo game and hope for many more and perhaps some wins.

[stevemaz]

Hey everyone. I had trouble logging on and was losing my mind over it. LOL

The game was lost on the missed fg drive where they could have ran the clock down to the 2 min warning. On that 3rd and 11 the play should have been a run to right looking for a few yards and setting the ball in the middle of the field. I think the kick would have been good.

On our last play it appears the WR ran a shitty route. If he cut off the route to the sticks and caught the pass (always in question with our stiffs) we win.

Our offense is the not the correct one for a QB like AJ. If he stays i would fire the OC and get one who is going to run a pro offense with QB under center 50% of time. Power running, some two tight ends, play action passing. This thing can be turned around next year even though I now have doubts on Coach H's ability to manage the game.

The goal from here is to find a way to win 1 game and 2 would be awesome. It wont happen this week though

[Quann]

The tone from Coach Joe here was a lot different than after Kent State, that's for sure. It is frustrating to hear that he/they can't admit they made some mistakes in that final possession, or even throughout the 4th quarter. You are a young coach, 0-7 in your first year.. it's ok to be wrong and admit so and learn from it.

Coach Joe might be getting some bad advice from folks above him...

Someone needs to gift coach Joe, Jocko Willink’s book “Extreme Ownership”. His pressers after games are the opposite of taking full accountability and owning your mistakes. He’s subtly seems to pass the buck whenever he speaks.

[InnervisionsUMASS]

Someone needs to gift coach Joe, Jocko Willink’s book “Extreme Ownership”. His pressers after games are the opposite of taking full accountability and owning your mistakes. He’s subtly seems to pass the buck whenever he speaks.

There seemed to be some of that up until the Kent State presser... he changed and really seemed to own things there. It was a major tone shift, but that seems gone now.

[TruBluMaroon]

^ His unsolicited comment about only having ten players on the field for a defensive possession sure seems like he was moving responsibility to an other coach; although he hired all of the coaches!

Maybe he has a two part strategy, where he fires his coaches to save his own job and these coaches are not his first choices , but the ones to sacrifice to allow JH to keep his job.

[eldonabe]

No, you don't listen very well. He said 130 teams use the book and 3 MAC teams do not pay for the book. I don't know what 7 minute clip you listened to but the live feed was 33 plus minutes and the repost later in the day was 31 plus minutes. It was not a clip, but a press conference.

Calling you out! Post the clip that he said 100 teams and source of your so call 7 minute clip. Post it and do not believe you as know the information from the press conference is a false Preecher.

It is right here Steve, four posts above. "over 100 temas have it and 3 Mac teams don't" 2 minute 33 second of the clip below. If there is something missing in the content here lmk. I am not wasting 35 minutes listening to this angry little coach complain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv0fFr8S0G0

Don't like your negativity towards the program. To end that post with the bolded shows you are looking to say negative things and not supportive of the program. I actively support basketball, football and other sports. Prefer not focusing on negativity, which is my nature.

Thanks for the clip! We both were originally wrong with our memory of the videos. You original said 100 and knew it was over a 100 and glad you corrected in the above quote to be "over" 100. We know our tendencies and it's fine to disagree. I worry that some people do not want to see the football program to grab the light away from basketball. I don't think it's an either or, and both can be very successful.

However, in this NIL world and competing for recruits, do worry whatever the sport, but on this forum, football having a consistent negative slant and how it may affect recruiting and the program worries me. Appreciated people’s excitement in the moment and being in the stadium. But your take on that moment gives me distain for you in how you post here. Fans were excited, the players and yes Bamford, who I did not notice. We know Ryan is your focus, eldonabe and others attacks. Man, twisting a great moment and turn it to a negative attack on our AD. We both know where we stand. It was a wonderful positive moment.

I like that Coach H and Frank, who do not give us coach speak. We see and hear how much they each care about their sports, teams and want to win. My pre-season hope of 4-6 wins went out the window after Bryant. Saw some encouragement in the Iowa and Missouri game against vastly better teams. Kent State knocked me back. The Buffalo performance, the coach's press conference gave me positive hope for the future. But hope for x number of wins are gone. My hope for performances or as the coach says process and not wins is this year’s focus. Like performances as the Buffalo game and hope for many more and perhaps some wins.

Steve I do actually appreciate your positivity. It must be hard to maintain in this sea of negativity.

The only question I will ask in retort to your post above is this: How many fucking mistakes, oversights, misses and broken promises is Bamford allowed before it is enough?


I have probably said this at least once before.... just about any professional person in any field would have been fired years ago with a similar performance.

[Steve81]

It is right here Steve, four posts above. "over 100 temas have it and 3 Mac teams don't" 2 minute 33 second of the clip below. If there is something missing in the content here lmk. I am not wasting 35 minutes listening to this angry little coach complain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv0fFr8S0G0

Don't like your negativity towards the program. To end that post with the bolded shows you are looking to say negative things and not supportive of the program. I actively support basketball, football and other sports. Prefer not focusing on negativity, which is my nature.

Thanks for the clip! We both were originally wrong with our memory of the videos. You original said 100 and knew it was over a 100 and glad you corrected in the above quote to be "over" 100. We know our tendencies and it's fine to disagree. I worry that some people do not want to see the football program to grab the light away from basketball. I don't think it's an either or, and both can be very successful.

However, in this NIL world and competing for recruits, do worry whatever the sport, but on this forum, football having a consistent negative slant and how it may affect recruiting and the program worries me. Appreciated people’s excitement in the moment and being in the stadium. But your take on that moment gives me distain for you in how you post here. Fans were excited, the players and yes Bamford, who I did not notice. We know Ryan is your focus, eldonabe and others attacks. Man, twisting a great moment and turn it to a negative attack on our AD. We both know where we stand. It was a wonderful positive moment.

I like that Coach H and Frank, who do not give us coach speak. We see and hear how much they each care about their sports, teams and want to win. My pre-season hope of 4-6 wins went out the window after Bryant. Saw some encouragement in the Iowa and Missouri game against vastly better teams. Kent State knocked me back. The Buffalo performance, the coach's press conference gave me positive hope for the future. But hope for x number of wins are gone. My hope for performances or as the coach says process and not wins is this year’s focus. Like performances as the Buffalo game and hope for many more and perhaps some wins.

Steve I do actually appreciate your positivity. It must be hard to maintain in this sea of negativity.

The only question I will ask in retort to your post above is this: How many fucking mistakes, oversights, misses and broken promises is Bamford allowed before it is enough?


I have probably said this at least once before.... just about any professional person in any field would have been fired years ago with a similar performance.

You may have not been in the military, but the mentality is NEVER to give up. Fight, even if you realize they are sacrificing your lives for a bigger objective. (Was never in that situation and did talk to vets that were in close situations in Nam.) Talked to a guy in they were in an all-night fire fight trying to hold the position.) They held and its day break. A full Colonel officer comes up to him to give him a hug in appreciate and all they went through and held the ground. He says, you don't want to, motions that he pissed all over himself. He does not know when in the fire fight it happen, but that Colonel held out his arms and gave him a full embrace to him he was not concerned and thank you for holding your ground.

Yes, we pissed on ourselves but loved the effort and acknowledge the mistakes. Coaches and players, learn and get better as your lives depend on it.

Feel we are in a fire fight with academics that don't care about football, fans from other sports that would like to see it go away, or worst are just tired and embarrassed by the lack of success and lack of Marty Meehan's leadership and support of the football program. He took a small step with the MAC move, but major financial support is needed to show everyone UMass is behind the program.

So, may battle you etc., because of being concern that the atmosphere could impact recruiting that we all we need. R&G was right after listen to this morning’s podcast about the second to last offensive series. All I can say to that this is a new staff and coach H also has some growth needed in those situations. That said, the fact that he is critical of himself and think he will grow as the team will grow.

But again, the fault in not at the AD level. It's at the President and Board of Trustees level. If you listen to Rene rant, guessing about 40 minutes in the Podcast, he lays it out.

Currently listening to Betrand's take on the game and what about that cancer fighting research at UMass. We have not been as much aware that amazing research without UMass Football. I have not come to that section, but understand your frustration with football. This pulling against football makes it harder and we are already in a very difficult hole. So do speak up, also make mistakes, and know regardless, will not give up on the fight for UMass Football long term success.

[InnervisionsUMASS]

Wow.

[Steve81]

Wow.

Disrespect acknowledged or sad you don't get or agree with the message; you fight to the end. Continued setbacks are frustrating and acknowledge people have limits and some push and do not give up. There are quitter's and fighters. Some people that will fight even if they will loss, because it is the only way to gain respect from others or their selves. I'm more talking about the team and staff and trying to go out and put plans together to win.

Believe there are a number of are quitters on UMassHoops. How they rag on the teams during the event, especially basketball games. Mocking bad events in game threads, which never earns my respect for those individuals.

Of course, the reason I called you out in the Board Site upgrade threads, being an IT recruiter for decades and not knowing much regarding BOTs. It was not 'weird' as the same stuff you use to attack people with a different perspective and possibly a resonating grudge about my support to leaving the A10. This and other gifs you use, DL love and kiss

[eldonabe]

Steve - I cannot argue with the the keep fighting mantra. I was not in the military, but my son was and saw it second hand (I get it up to a point).

I also agree that it is the Trustees and Chancellor who are/were problem #1. As I acknowledged on a few occasions I am not sure anyone was going to have much success in Bamford's position because that.


The program / department needs a culture change starting with the AD. Bamford has spent (over spent) his last inch of rope with the fan base. You have to see that don't you? I am telling you, that presser he dropped in on and made those promises was the dumbest thing he could have done in that moment. He doesn't have the money secured that he promised to spend for starters, and the the phase 1 changes (to paraphrase) for next year are just fancy words to mask kicking the can down the road one more year - everyone knows and can see that.

Two months from now he is going to lay out this new, new plan and everyone is going to say - That's it? At this point I almost don't care if they put another penny into that pile of concrete. Spend it all on players; buy some wins and spark some donations. I am all for giving Joe some time - needs it - but he needs some help desperately.



Take a day or two and reread the McGuirk upgrade thread..... It is the biggest bunch of horseshit [broken] promises you can think of. I do not care any more if it is his fault or not, we need a new AD and a fresh start.

[Steve81]

Steve - I cannot argue with the the keep fighting mantra. I was not in the military, but my son was and saw it second hand (I get it up to a point).

I also agree that it is the Trustees and Chancellor who are/were problem #1. As I acknowledged on a few occasions I am not sure anyone was going to have much success in Bamford's position because that.


The program / department needs a culture change starting with the AD. Bamford has spent (over spent) his last inch of rope with the fan base. You have to see that don't you? I am telling you, that presser he dropped in on and made those promises was the dumbest thing he could have done in that moment. He doesn't have the money secured that he promised to spend for starters, and the the phase 1 changes (to paraphrase) for next year are just fancy words to mask kicking the can down the road one more year - everyone knows and can see that.

Two months from now he is going to lay out this new, new plan and everyone is going to say - That's it? At this point I almost don't care if they put another penny into that pile of concrete. Spend it all on players; buy some wins and spark some donations. I am all for giving Joe some time - needs it - but he needs some help desperately.



Take a day or two and reread the McGuirk upgrade thread..... It is the biggest bunch of horseshit [broken] promises you can think of. I do not care any more if it is his fault or not, we need a new AD and a fresh start.

eldonabe, do acknowledge other people's perspectives and understand wanting to axe Ryan. But unless changes happen at the President or BOT level, the next person accepting the job will be a weak AD and a yes man. Ryan listens to his superiors, but does have a whole athletic approach and at this point hoping UMass Basketball has a good year. Ryan will gain a break from the assault. Getting hockey or other sports is not the same as getting either basketball or football being successful. Getting one right is important and part of the reason I donate to basketball, in addition to other sports. Football is important, others may not agree, but the half a$$ support by the President, BOT, and governor, who appoints the BOT president is a bad recipe that leaves a bad taste through sports. The above did make a step forward this year, but it was not a big step for what is needed.

[InnervisionsUMASS]

Disrespect acknowledged or sad you don't get or agree with the message; you fight to the end. Continued setbacks are frustrating and acknowledge people have limits and some push and do not give up. There are quitter's and fighters. Some people that will fight even if they will loss, because it is the only way to gain respect from others or their selves. I'm more talking about the team and staff and trying to go out and put plans together to win.

Believe there are a number of are quitters on UMassHoops. How they rag on the teams during the event, especially basketball games. Mocking bad events in game threads, which never earns my respect for those individuals.

Of course, the reason I called you out in the Board Site upgrade threads, being an IT recruiter for decades and not knowing much regarding BOTs. It was not 'weird' as the same stuff you use to attack people with a different perspective and possibly a resonating grudge about my support to leaving the A10. This and other gifs you use, DL love and kiss

You remain ridiculous. As an example, lets simply look at this one aspect of your ranting:

and possibly a resonating grudge about my support to leaving the A10.

Why, Steve, would I have a grudge with you about you wanting to leave the A10, WHEN I ALSO WANTED TO LEAVE THE A10?

You continue to make shit up to pit the fanbase against itself. You do that while also going on mostly incoherent rants, like above about a military mentality, and continuing to blindly support the people in charge. Blind loyalty is not a good thing.


I have not given up on UMass Athletics and never will, but I know when things aren't going well and have no shame in admitting and stating as such. Take a cue, Steve.