Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

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Re: Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

Post by Juice Stand » Tue Oct 21, 2025 5:42 am

R&G wrote: Mon Oct 20, 2025 4:18 pm Did he also mention that it was a good idea to snap the ball (on multiple occasions) with over 20 seconds left on the play clock in their second to last possession. Coaching lost that game.
Yes. He first threw Bajakian under the bus a little by saying it's his call. Then he went on to say that they didn't want to put too much on Hairston's plate. The first priority was getting the play calls in and making sure Hairston could get everybody lined up and on the same page. He didn't want to add a layer of complexity for the freshman QB by milking the clock down.

Can't say I agree with that, but at least he had a thought process and explanation.

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Re: Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

Post by Rolling Ridge » Tue Oct 21, 2025 7:46 am

jjmc85 wrote: Mon Oct 20, 2025 11:23 pm
umassbaseball wrote: Mon Oct 20, 2025 2:08 pm If you listened to his press conference from today, he called you stupid.
I went back and listened to the press conference. I did not hear Coach H call anyone stupid. Can someone please provide the time stamp? I will withhold comment until I hear it.

Addressing my earlier post, I said there were two strategies. When addressing the offensive series before the punt, Coach H laid out the same two strategies. My interpretation of watching live was they switch strategies after second down. Coach H said this was not the case. They were trying to get the first down to win the game from first down. I’ll believe him and retract my criticism of switch strategies.

I might go back and watch the two run plays before the pass. Coach H went into a lot of detail about why each was called in the press conference. It may be interesting to watch the plays through the lens of attempting to get a first down.
I just had a chance to watch the press conference. A couple of things. First, regarding the "stupid" comments, I agree that I didn't hear Coach H call anyone "stupid." In the video below, at roughly the 3-minute mark, then again at about 5:30, he talks about the analytics book UMass pays for that gives him feedback about situations, including broadcaster commentary. In this case, the book said to "completely ignore" the negative commentary about the approach to that that last series. Coach clearly says that people are entitled to their opinions, but that is the metric he uses to gauge his success and is what he uses with the team to put the comments of broadcasters and fans into proper perspective. In this case the metric was to get the first down, not burn Buffalo's timeouts. I happen to agree with that, and I'm glad to hear that the coaches understood the situation properly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv0fFr8S0G0

Second, like you, I came away from his explanation about that last series with a different interpretation, especially regarding those first two plays. Unlike many here, I never criticized the decision to throw on third down, but it looked to me like they were trying to just take a knee on those first two plays. Apparently not. Turns, out that the first was a sort of "busted" play and on the second, the running back cramped up and collapsed. That sucks, but at least I know now that they understood they needed the first down and were actually trying to get it. It didn't look like it at the time, but I now believe that they were. So, I also retract my criticism.

It's still frustrating, and I'm still miffed about the unsportsmanlike penalty that put them in such a bad position, but I appreciate Coach's explanation and that he took the time to, in my opinion, respectfully address fan's concerns.

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Re: Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

Post by eldonabe » Tue Oct 21, 2025 8:34 am

For fuck sakes.... The "stupid" thing was a figure of speech....

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Re: Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

Post by Rolling Ridge » Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:02 am

eldonabe wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 8:34 am For fuck sakes.... The "stupid" thing was a figure of speech....
Duh. I didn't expect Coach to literally say fans/broadcasters were "stupid." But based on the original comment (posted below), I excepted him to be a lot more condescending and harsher than he was. He didn't treat people like garbage, and it wasn't brutal, nor did he even imply that people who were critical were stupid, for fuck's sake.

"If you listened to his press conference from today, he called you stupid. He said anyone can have an opinion but he gets judged by the "professionals" who "do this for a living." Also in case we didn't know, they give him a grade for coaching and they said to disregard anything the broadcast people said about how bad the game management was. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. We still support and show up for this program who doesn't have a home FBS win since 2021 and the program calls his stupid and treats us like garbage. It's brutal"

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Re: Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

Post by eldonabe » Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:41 am

Rolling Ridge wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:02 am
eldonabe wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 8:34 am For fuck sakes.... The "stupid" thing was a figure of speech....
Duh. I didn't expect Coach to literally say fans/broadcasters were "stupid." But based on the original comment (posted below), I excepted him to be a lot more condescending and harsher than he was. He didn't treat people like garbage, and it wasn't brutal, nor did he even imply that people who were critical were stupid, for fuck's sake.

"If you listened to his press conference from today, he called you stupid. He said anyone can have an opinion but he gets judged by the "professionals" who "do this for a living." Also in case we didn't know, they give him a grade for coaching and they said to disregard anything the broadcast people said about how bad the game management was. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. We still support and show up for this program who doesn't have a home FBS win since 2021 and the program calls his stupid and treats us like garbage. It's brutal"
It wasn't my post .... just pointing out hyperbole versus literal.


I think he mismanaged the end of the game. My opinion - but I am not a professional, so I guess I am just stupid.

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Re: Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

Post by PreecherJenkins » Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:08 am

I have turned on this guy after watching that 7 minute clip.

What a condescending little man.

To paraphrase: I use a book, 100 teams use a book, those guys grade me not you the broadcaster, not you the fan. Professionals grade me.

Dude, if you want to be aggressive, than do it! Why not throw the ball on first down? What about throwing it on second down? No, wait until its 3-14. The Buffs picked up 3-18, but what does your book say about the odds of picking up 3-14?

Did anyone catch bam bam on the sidelines jumping after the INT, we could save a lot of money if he wants to be head cheerleader. what a clown show this is.

Lastly, look in the mirror, we are all stupid
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Re: Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

Post by Rolling Ridge » Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:09 am

eldonabe wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:41 amIt wasn't my post .... just pointing out hyperbole versus literal.
And I'm just pointing out that nobody took "stupid" literally. I watched with no expectation that I'd hear the word "stupid," but looked for the implication. I personally found none.

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Post by PreecherJenkins » Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:18 am

Also, Jay walked back his call after the NIT "Seals it for the Minuteman" Come on Jay do better brah
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Re: Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

Post by Steve81 » Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:19 am

PreecherJenkins wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:08 am I have turned on this guy after watching that 7 minute clip.

What a condescending little man.

To paraphrase: I use a book, 100 teams use a book, those guys grade me not you the broadcaster, not you the fan. Professionals grade me.

Dude, if you want to be aggressive, than do it! Why not throw the ball on first down? What about throwing it on second down? No, wait until its 3-14. The Buffs picked up 3-18, but what does your book say about the odds of picking up 3-14?

Did anyone catch bam bam on the sidelines jumping after the INT, we could save a lot of money if he wants to be head cheerleader. what a clown show this is.

Lastly, look in the mirror, we are all stupid
No, you don't listen very well. He said 130 teams use the book and 3 MAC teams do not pay for the book. I don't know what 7 minute clip you listened to but the live feed was 33 plus minutes and the repost later in the day was 31 plus minutes. It was not a clip, but a press conference.

Calling you out! Post the clip that he said 100 teams and source of your so call 7 minute clip. Post it and do not believe you as know the information from the press conference is a false Preecher.
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Re: Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

Post by TheInsider » Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:19 am

The real killer was the dropped pick 6 in the 4th... And coach, professionals don't grade you... the fucking scoreboard does.

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Re: Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

Post by kdogg8173 » Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:45 am

He's leaving out that Umass is the worst offense in the country and one of the worse offenses in the last 20 years. They had no shot to make that first down throwing it. None. A chunk of yards on a straight run or QB run had a much higher likely hood of happening and then you hope your defense makes a play.

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Re: Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

Post by PreecherJenkins » Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:31 am

Steve81 wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:19 am
PreecherJenkins wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:08 am I have turned on this guy after watching that 7 minute clip.

What a condescending little man.

To paraphrase: I use a book, 100 teams use a book, those guys grade me not you the broadcaster, not you the fan. Professionals grade me.

Dude, if you want to be aggressive, than do it! Why not throw the ball on first down? What about throwing it on second down? No, wait until its 3-14. The Buffs picked up 3-18, but what does your book say about the odds of picking up 3-14?

Did anyone catch bam bam on the sidelines jumping after the INT, we could save a lot of money if he wants to be head cheerleader. what a clown show this is.

Lastly, look in the mirror, we are all stupid
No, you don't listen very well. He said 130 teams use the book and 3 MAC teams do not pay for the book. I don't know what 7 minute clip you listened to but the live feed was 33 plus minutes and the repost later in the day was 31 plus minutes. It was not a clip, but a press conference.

Calling you out! Post the clip that he said 100 teams and source of your so call 7 minute clip. Post it and do not believe you as know the information from the press conference is a false Preecher.
It is right here Steve, four posts above. "over 100 temas have it and 3 Mac teams don't" 2 minute 33 second of the clip below. If there is something missing in the content here lmk. I am not wasting 35 minutes listening to this angry little coach complain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv0fFr8S0G0
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Re: Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

Post by 69MG » Tue Oct 21, 2025 12:14 pm

Wow, do I wish FB season was over. The tone of the FB board is directly proportional to the results on the field, and I fear that it won't get any better.

I pray the hockey team has a good weekend in Omaha.

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Re: Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

Post by umassbaseball » Tue Oct 21, 2025 12:30 pm

eldonabe wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 8:34 am For fuck sakes.... The "stupid" thing was a figure of speech....
A little concerning people didn't get that. He kept saying there's all things we don't know about, the announcers were all wrong, the professionals said he did a great job and he didn't want players to listen to what parents, fans, etc were saying because it wasn't true in his eyes. So many little condescending things. He doesn't have to literally use the word "stupid" to get that message across clearly multiple times.

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Re: Game 7, 2025: Buffalo (10/18)

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Tue Oct 21, 2025 12:43 pm

The tone from Coach Joe here was a lot different than after Kent State, that's for sure. It is frustrating to hear that he/they can't admit they made some mistakes in that final possession, or even throughout the 4th quarter. You are a young coach, 0-7 in your first year.. it's ok to be wrong and admit so and learn from it.

Coach Joe might be getting some bad advice from folks above him...
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