Conference Realignment

[eldonabe]

^ IMO, this continues to reinforce that Boston is a pro sports town.

Yup

[eldonabe]

^^^^
I’m actually kind of stunned. How has Bamford not sealed the deal yesterday?

He has been told for the last years that all sports was a no go. He also is not the one to make the decision. The deal is likely already, and will be announced in the spring. That was strongly implied in the update video from a few weeks ago.

That Vid was 100% BS spin...

Yes we know
We are working on it
We need to do what is best for the University
We do not take this decision lightly


"Pull this leg and it plays jingle bells".

[DougW]

^^^^
I’m actually kind of stunned. How has Bamford not sealed the deal yesterday?

He has been told for the last years that all sports was a no go. He also is not the one to make the decision. The deal is likely already, and will be announced in the spring. That was strongly implied in the update video from a few weeks ago.

What might be the reasoning for delaying an announcement until spring if a deal has likely already been made?

[minutefanjsf]

^^^^
I’m actually kind of stunned. How has Bamford not sealed the deal yesterday?

He has been told for the last years that all sports was a no go. He also is not the one to make the decision. The deal is likely already, and will be announced in the spring. That was strongly implied in the update video from a few weeks ago.

What might be the reasoning for delaying an announcement until spring if a deal has likely already been made?

A10 exit fees, championships, finding conferences for sports that are not in CUSA-lax (m and w), field hockey, etc., the decision is made by presidents and he said the plan would be announced in the spring and enacted in the fall.

[ZooMass84]

He has been told for the last years that all sports was a no go. He also is not the one to make the decision. The deal is likely already, and will be announced in the spring. That was strongly implied in the update video from a few weeks ago.

What might be the reasoning for delaying an announcement until spring if a deal has likely already been made?

A10 exit fees, championships, finding conferences for sports that are not in CUSA-lax (m and w), field hockey, etc., the decision is made by presidents and he said the plan would be announced in the spring and enacted in the fall.

Is this wishful thinking or is this looking like a done deal?

[Old Cage]

If this has not been mentioned: There are multiple instances where teams have not been allowed to participate in conference playoffs immediately upon announcing they were leaving. Announcing now would injure our winter and spring teams.

[Steve81]

He has been told for the last years that all sports was a no go. He also is not the one to make the decision. The deal is likely already, and will be announced in the spring. That was strongly implied in the update video from a few weeks ago.

What might be the reasoning for delaying an announcement until spring if a deal has likely already been made?

A10 exit fees, championships, finding conferences for sports that are not in CUSA-lax (m and w), field hockey, etc., the decision is made by presidents and he said the plan would be announced in the spring and enacted in the fall.

Do see finances as the increased A10 exit fee increased to 4M after 1 year notice. (Wonder if we voted for the increase.)

Don't understand why the A10 would not let us leave our teams in place. There is 1 sport, not sure if it was men's soccer the A10 would need to drop if they could not find a replacement. Also, when the MAC had an affiliate leave and had to drop men's soccer, Akron had no trouble finding a home in the Big East. Regarding championship in such, the CAA were the ones that use to prohibit post season play if leaving. They have since change that rule. The A10 does not have it and teams as Temple stayed a year for the reduced exit fee, back then 1M and were not banned from post season play.
Delaware has the same lacrosse issue and they moved to CUSA. It's time to join them. No conference is perfect but checks a lot of boxes.

• East Coast Presence
  Basketball tradition, FAU, which left was in the Final 4 this year and leaving their 5 NCAA Credits behind. The entire A10 in 4 years earned 5 credits.
  Active fan bases, which are dramatically better than the MAC
  Facilities are general good and will not miss Gola Arena.
  Upward mobility, many teams have advanced to Power conferences or the American
  Mid Week games are in October, which is better than November
  Nice places to visit as Nashville, Atlanta, Miami etc.
  A place where we can be successful in both Basketball and Football

[ZooMass84]

sounds like C-USA is a done deal. If we blow this off, then it's looking like 1AA is in the future. After this year, FBS indy's are only us and UCant. UConn could actually swing it all by themselves because the Big East TV $$$$ is mega. UCant has complete schedules thru 2027.

[ZooMass84]

we're going to have a real problem because our future schedules include Army and Liberty and those games are 99% NOT going to be played. that's for the NEXT 4 seasons.

[minutefanjsf]

What might be the reasoning for delaying an announcement until spring if a deal has likely already been made?

A10 exit fees, championships, finding conferences for sports that are not in CUSA-lax (m and w), field hockey, etc., the decision is made by presidents and he said the plan would be announced in the spring and enacted in the fall.

Do see finances as the increased A10 exit fee increased to 4M after 1 year notice. (Wonder if we voted for the increase.)

Don't understand why the A10 would not let us leave our teams in place. There is 1 sport, not sure if it was men's soccer the A10 would need to drop if they could not find a replacement. Also, when the MAC had an affiliate leave and had to drop men's soccer, Akron had no trouble finding a home in the Big East. Regarding championship in such, the CAA were the ones that use to prohibit post season play if leaving. They have since change that rule. The A10 does not have it and teams as Temple stayed a year for the reduced exit fee, back then 1M and were not banned from post season play.
Delaware has the same lacrosse issue and they moved to CUSA. It's time to join them. No conference is perfect but checks a lot of boxes.

• East Coast Presence
  Basketball tradition, FAU, which left was in the Final 4 this year and leaving their 5 NCAA Credits behind. The entire A10 in 4 years earned 5 credits.
  Active fan bases, which are dramatically better than the MAC
  Facilities are general good and will not miss Gola Arena.
  Upward mobility, many teams have advanced to Power conferences or the American
  Mid Week games are in October, which is better than November
  Nice places to visit as Nashville, Atlanta, Miami etc.
  A place where we can be successful in both Basketball and Football

You are preaching to the choir. I was simply answering the question as to why the announcement might take until spring semester. I believe all the the things you said about homes for sports not in CUSA will happen. My point was just that those things have to be ironed out before an announcement is made. The new chancellor has only been on the job for 3 months, so I assume everything is moving forward but hasn’t been finalized because there are lots of contracts to sort out.

[minutefanjsf]

we're going to have a real problem because our future schedules include Army and Liberty and those games are 99% NOT going to be played. that's for the NEXT 4 seasons.

Liberty is in CUSA. Army yes will likely need to be rescheduled.

[photoman]

I seem to remember in previous conference talk we used the term "like institutions" quite a bit. Are CUSA schools "like institutions"?, or does that not matter anymore as we're in a desperate need for a home? The geography and travel also looks crazy.

[Steve81]

I seem to remember in previous conference talk we used the term "like institutions" quite a bit. Are CUSA schools "like institutions"?, or does that not matter anymore as we're in a desperate need for a home? The geography and travel also looks crazy.

They are mostly public institutions and we'd be the fourth R1 institution. There are 8 R2 institutions with WKU finally becoming R2 in 2024. More importantly, they all play FBS football and Basketball.

[Quann]

sounds like C-USA is a done deal. If we blow this off, then it's looking like 1AA is in the future. After this year, FBS indy's are only us and UCant. UConn could actually swing it all by themselves because the Big East TV $$$$ is mega. UCant has complete schedules thru 2027.

And Notre Dame of course. They're still not joining a conference any time soon with the most recent NBC deal. It'll be interested to see how ND is included in the CFP once the mega conferences shake out and there are two tiers in FBS football.

[Bags]

Teams that are not supported in CUSA:
Field Hockey
Men’s Soccer
Men’s and Women’s Lacrosse
Women’s Tennis
Men’s and Women’s Swimming and Diving
Women’s Rowing
If the A 10 isn’t interested in UM as an affiliate member, what conferences make sense?
Can we save any money in transportation costs by joining “bus ride” conferences ?
If there is any way to make it work, would definitely want to add D1 Women’s Hockey.
Will we be need to drop any sports?