Game 14, 2025-26: at Eastern Michigan (12/30)

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Re: Game 14, 2025-26: at Eastern Michigan (12/30)

Post by bunkerhill87 » Wed Dec 31, 2025 9:55 am

Floyd wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 9:51 am I agree about Banks, let him shoot whenever open, and I'm cool with Parker when he's open too, unless its a situation where we need to run clock. Those two can shoot it with consistency.
absolutely agree here. We had some decent shots from those guys just were not falling. ON the other hand guys coming in took some poor shots. I believe when we win there is solid inside play that opens up really good looks. last night our inside game was from 2nd chance and not directly out of offense. Good for us hitting the boards but id rather see inside out etc

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Re: Game 14, 2025-26: at Eastern Michigan (12/30)

Post by Floyd » Wed Dec 31, 2025 10:22 am

bunkerhill87 wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 9:55 am Good for us hitting the boards but id rather see inside out etc
No doubt. I fucking hate the 5 guys out at the 3 pt line running that pick & weave offense. Seems like it clogs up for the ball handler & we end up shooting a last second 3, then go for offensive rebounds. Seems low percentage, unless we're hitting threes. Like DHS at the high post, Bettiol/Clerc down low and spread the guards to create some space and let them beat their man. Danny is really good with his first step and getting in the lane for either the lay in or dump to the bigs or open wing ( Banks or Parker). 3's from Luka, DHS, Clerc, or Bettiol should be last options. Percentages are just not good
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Re: Game 14, 2025-26: at Eastern Michigan (12/30)

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Floyd wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 9:51 am I agree about Banks, let him shoot whenever open, and I'm cool with Parker when he's open too, unless its a situation where we need to run clock. Those two can shoot it with consistency.
Parker took a horrible shot when we we closing the gap in the last two minutes. Seems they don’t know when they are open or what a good shot is. Don’t know if that is overconfidence, bad coaching, or a mixture of both.

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Re: Game 14, 2025-26: at Eastern Michigan (12/30)

Post by minutefanjsf » Wed Dec 31, 2025 10:35 am

Floyd wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 10:22 am
bunkerhill87 wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 9:55 am Good for us hitting the boards but id rather see inside out etc
No doubt. I fucking hate the 5 guys out at the 3 pt line running that pick & weave offense. Seems like it clogs up for the ball handler & we end up shooting a last second 3, then go for offensive rebounds. Seems low percentage, unless we're hitting threes. Like DHS at the high post, Bettiol/Clerc down low and spread the guards to create some space and let them beat their man. Danny is really good with his first step and getting in the lane for either the lay in or dump to the bigs or open wing ( Banks or Parker). 3's from Luka, DHS, Clerc, or Bettiol should be last options. Percentages are just not good
The weave works if they keep the spacing and movement going. They don’t.

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Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:20 am

minutefanjsf wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 10:35 am

The weave works if they keep the spacing and movement going. They don’t.

The weave works if they keep the spacing and movement going, AND you mix in other sets so that you aren't just doing the weave all the time.
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Re: Game 14, 2025-26: at Eastern Michigan (12/30)

Post by minutefanjsf » Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:34 am

InnervisionsUMASS wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:20 am
minutefanjsf wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 10:35 am

The weave works if they keep the spacing and movement going. They don’t.

The weave works if they keep the spacing and movement going, AND you mix in other sets so that you aren't just doing the weave all the time.
Yes, which they do. They use the weave to get moving and then have many plays off of it. Multiple screens, high post entry, etc. the weave is the way to reset as well. It can also be shortened or used as a decoy set. It is the core of golden state in the nba. Not a junk offense when run right.

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Re: Game 14, 2025-26: at Eastern Michigan (12/30)

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:03 pm

minutefanjsf wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:34 am
InnervisionsUMASS wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:20 am
minutefanjsf wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 10:35 am

The weave works if they keep the spacing and movement going. They don’t.

The weave works if they keep the spacing and movement going, AND you mix in other sets so that you aren't just doing the weave all the time.
Yes, which they do. They use the weave to get moving and then have many plays off of it. Multiple screens, high post entry, etc. the weave is the way to reset as well. It can also be shortened or used as a decoy set. It is the core of golden state in the nba. Not a junk offense when run right.
We watch the same games, right? They don't really do much of that....
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Re: Game 14, 2025-26: at Eastern Michigan (12/30)

Post by inthescoop » Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:28 pm

InnervisionsUMASS wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:03 pm
minutefanjsf wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:34 am
InnervisionsUMASS wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:20 am


The weave works if they keep the spacing and movement going, AND you mix in other sets so that you aren't just doing the weave all the time.
Yes, which they do. They use the weave to get moving and then have many plays off of it. Multiple screens, high post entry, etc. the weave is the way to reset as well. It can also be shortened or used as a decoy set. It is the core of golden state in the nba. Not a junk offense when run right.
We watch the same games, right? They don't really do much of that....
Idk IV, when I watch UMass basketball I am definitely reminded of the Golden State Warriors offense :lol: :lol:

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Re: Game 14, 2025-26: at Eastern Michigan (12/30)

Post by minutefanjsf » Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:38 pm

inthescoop wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:28 pm
InnervisionsUMASS wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:03 pm
minutefanjsf wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:34 am

Yes, which they do. They use the weave to get moving and then have many plays off of it. Multiple screens, high post entry, etc. the weave is the way to reset as well. It can also be shortened or used as a decoy set. It is the core of golden state in the nba. Not a junk offense when run right.
We watch the same games, right? They don't really do much of that....
Idk IV, when I watch UMass basketball I am definitely reminded of the Golden State Warriors offense :lol: :lol:
I didn’t say they ran it well. I took your point to be that the weave by itself was bad coaching. Not how they do it. They actually do run many different plays off of it. It is wildly inconsistent execution and often hear Frank reminding them to move, which is ridiculous. It should be an easy base offense. They get stuck I the weave too long at times and miss the open lanes, passes, and shots. Or, they take the shots too early.

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Post by 69MG » Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:57 pm

I was at a party last night so I missed the game. The Irish love to throw parties when someone dies, it's a great way to honor them. Anyhow, there was a toast at 7:05 because he was a Red Sox fan and that's the starting time for Red Sox games. Ironically, his name was Billy Martin.

I've read all of the comments, and I have just 1 question. When you look at the box score, obviously the number of free throws jumps out at you. My question is, were they legit fouls or did we get a lot of bad calls? I know reach-in fouls have been an issue this season, but 39 free throws is a big number.

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Re: Game 14, 2025-26: at Eastern Michigan (12/30)

Post by Bags » Wed Dec 31, 2025 1:32 pm

The problem was the defense. Their center Habab would get the ball inside, either he would score, or would pass to a wide open cutter. We never adjusted.

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Post by 69MG » Wed Dec 31, 2025 2:27 pm

After further review, I have 2 more questions:

1. Was Leo so ineffective that Frank benched him? He only played 12 minutes, and he only had 3 fouls. I know 2 were early, but 12 minutes?
2. Why does Wimbley get playing time over Placide, Brown or even Outlaw? 20.5% from the field, 15.8 from 3 and 42.9 from the line.

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Re: Game 14, 2025-26: at Eastern Michigan (12/30)

Post by inthescoop » Wed Dec 31, 2025 3:22 pm

^Only 5 minutes of PT for Placide who is a legitimate offensive threat. And yet, there are guys out on the court getting good minutes that provide zero on offense.
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Re: Game 14, 2025-26: at Eastern Michigan (12/30)

Post by Floyd » Wed Dec 31, 2025 3:25 pm

minutefanjsf wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 10:34 am
Floyd wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 9:51 am I agree about Banks, let him shoot whenever open, and I'm cool with Parker when he's open too, unless its a situation where we need to run clock. Those two can shoot it with consistency.
Parker took a horrible shot when we we closing the gap in the last two minutes. Seems they don’t know when they are open or what a good shot is. Don’t know if that is overconfidence, bad coaching, or a mixture of both.
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He also hit a big one too. But let's pull him for one questionable shot and keep 3 low % shooters on the floor together, down 6 with 20 seconds left. Makes sense
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Re: Game 14, 2025-26: at Eastern Michigan (12/30)

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Wed Dec 31, 2025 3:38 pm

minutefanjsf wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:38 pm
inthescoop wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:28 pm
InnervisionsUMASS wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:03 pm

We watch the same games, right? They don't really do much of that....
Idk IV, when I watch UMass basketball I am definitely reminded of the Golden State Warriors offense :lol: :lol:
I didn’t say they ran it well. I took your point to be that the weave by itself was bad coaching. Not how they do it. They actually do run many different plays off of it. It is wildly inconsistent execution and often hear Frank reminding them to move, which is ridiculous. It should be an easy base offense. They get stuck I the weave too long at times and miss the open lanes, passes, and shots. Or, they take the shots too early.

They really don't run many sets.
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