The Midnight Ride Collective - Content and Coverage

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Post by eldonabe » Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:35 pm

JoleonLescottsHair wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:35 am ^ yep.

Just look above in this thread at how the head of the hoop Collective answers questions (i.e. professionally) versus MRC. Asking people for money and then insulting those who don’t give or have questions never seemed like a particularly sound strategy of MRC. Presenting yourself as adversarial to the AD doesn’t seem very wise or productive either. By comparison, the Collective promotes the program. Full stop. I’m the biggest skeptic of NIL there is and have not joined the Collective, but Pat has invited me to meetings and has been willing to answer questions that people have, even uncomfortable ones at times.
Well to be fair - you are tied for the biggest skeptic 8) .

The MRC is full of muscle brain dudes trying to do the big boy football thing. I suspect that had something to do with their "unwinding".

It is interesting that the Hoop stash is now being picked over for football. This is and has been the problem with the AD's office in general. Bamford is not running this like an FBS athletic department - the fucking guy needs to go. There are other collectives that are sport specific, but most in the "big boy" schools are one big pot for the whole thing.

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Post by umasscollective » Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:06 pm

eldonabe wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:35 pm
JoleonLescottsHair wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:35 am ^ yep.

Just look above in this thread at how the head of the hoop Collective answers questions (i.e. professionally) versus MRC. Asking people for money and then insulting those who don’t give or have questions never seemed like a particularly sound strategy of MRC. Presenting yourself as adversarial to the AD doesn’t seem very wise or productive either. By comparison, the Collective promotes the program. Full stop. I’m the biggest skeptic of NIL there is and have not joined the Collective, but Pat has invited me to meetings and has been willing to answer questions that people have, even uncomfortable ones at times.
Well to be fair - you are tied for the biggest skeptic 8) .

The MRC is full of muscle brain dudes trying to do the big boy football thing. I suspect that had something to do with their "unwinding".

It is interesting that the Hoop stash is now being picked over for football. This is and has been the problem with the AD's office in general. Bamford is not running this like an FBS athletic department - the fucking guy needs to go. There are other collectives that are sport specific, but most in the "big boy" schools are one big pot for the whole thing.

BAMFORD MUST GO
I respect your skepticism towards NIL—it’s absolutely your choice to feel that way. I think we have demonstrated professionalism, accountability, transparency and moderate success over the last 2 years. However, I politely ask that you please avoid spreading false information. I understand it can be hard to keep up with all this, too. But as we’ve clearly stated in this thread:

“We’ve stepped in to provide administrative and support roles as needed for the rest of this season and going forward. To be absolutely clear: no basketball funds or resources will be used for anything but basketball. These efforts are completely separate and will remain that way.”

It’s also important to clarify that the MRC is a private business, and the administration or Bamford has no control over it. They shut down on their own and have not addressed or accounted for the shutdown. We’re not here to criticize or speculate on the MRC—we’re here to help, and that’s what we’re doing.

We can only control our communication and operations, and we strive to be as clear, concise, and transparent as possible. That commitment will continue moving forward.

I encourage you to join our next member meeting on 12/10 via Zoom to see how we operate and participate in the discussion. If you’re interested, please email [email protected] for access. We’d value your input.

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Post by JoleonLescottsHair » Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:25 pm

umasscollective wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:06 pm However, I politely ask that you please avoid spreading false information. I understand it can be hard to keep up with all this, too. But as we’ve clearly stated in this thread
I’m not sure if that is for me, Eldonabe, or both. But I certainly don’t have any interest in spreading false info nor do believe I have done so. I shared the concerns others raised about funds potentially being intermingled and you responded and clarified to what should be everyone’s satisfaction. That’s it.

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Post by umasscollective » Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:49 pm

JoleonLescottsHair wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:25 pm
umasscollective wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:06 pm However, I politely ask that you please avoid spreading false information. I understand it can be hard to keep up with all this, too. But as we’ve clearly stated in this thread
I’m not sure if that is for me, Eldonabe, or both. But I certainly don’t have any interest in spreading false info nor do believe I have done so. I shared the concerns others raised about funds potentially being intermingled and you responded and clarified to what should be everyone’s satisfaction. That’s it.
Sorry - specifically to Eldonabe who said “It is interesting that the Hoop stash is now being picked over for football.”

As always happy to answer questions and have a discussion though.

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Post by JoleonLescottsHair » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:12 pm

Thanks for clarifying. I appreciate it. Probably seems like a little thing, but the “troll” charges come reflexively fast and furious here and didn’t want “spreads mis-information” being added to the arsenal.

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Post by umasscollective » Sat Nov 30, 2024 6:32 pm

JoleonLescottsHair wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:12 pm Thanks for clarifying. I appreciate it. Probably seems like a little thing, but the “troll” charges come reflexively fast and furious here and didn’t want “spreads mis-information” being added to the arsenal.
Haha no worries - totally understand. Important time for UMass Athletics these next 12-18 months let’s all work together and enjoy the ride!

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Post by TheInsider » Sat Nov 30, 2024 6:34 pm

As long as Bamford doesn't add another fuck up to his long line of fuck ups.. literally no other AD in the nation would have kept his job

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Post by eldonabe » Sun Dec 01, 2024 4:46 am

Thanks for clarification UC. No worries.

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Post by Steve81 » Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:12 am

Want to add some background, now the NIL commitment is part of the HC contract.
https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1864307443548799308
Story on UMass' expected hire of Rutgers DC Joe Harasymiak. UMass will have nearly $2 million in NIL/revenue share for the 2025 season and $3 million for 2026, per sources. Harasymiak will also have a staff pool of more than $2.7 million
Was talking to a Missouri fan, who said the NIL being part of the athletic department was part of the P4 push for it. Look, you have Arkansas fans who don't make much money and to think they are going to donate towards a student athlete making 6 figures is not happen as much as they'd like.

So full understand the Athletic department's need to bring NIL's in house so they can compete with good coaching candidates. Now that does not answer the Mass Collective being brought in house or not. Feel Pat is connected with the Athletic department and could have a roll in all this. As a fan do spend more than I should on UMass athletics with the lion share towards football. That does not mean I don't care about other UMass sports.

Play pool Tuesday nights, can not attend the Dec 10th zoom meeting and missed last night and can not miss 2 straight weeks. Since it's my money, I want to be giving towards football and needs to be separate from basketball, which I do give. But need to know that the lion share of my giving is going towards football before restarting my football NIL donations.
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Post by umasscollective » Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:18 pm

Steve81 wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:12 am Want to add some background, now the NIL commitment is part of the HC contract.
https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1864307443548799308
Story on UMass' expected hire of Rutgers DC Joe Harasymiak. UMass will have nearly $2 million in NIL/revenue share for the 2025 season and $3 million for 2026, per sources. Harasymiak will also have a staff pool of more than $2.7 million
Was talking to a Missouri fan, who said the NIL being part of the athletic department was part of the P4 push for it. Look, you have Arkansas fans who don't make much money and to think they are going to donate towards a student athlete making 6 figures is not happen as much as they'd like.

So full understand the Athletic department's need to bring NIL's in house so they can compete with good coaching candidates. Now that does not answer the Mass Collective being brought in house or not. Feel Pat is connected with the Athletic department and could have a roll in all this. As a fan do spend more than I should on UMass athletics with the lion share towards football. That does not mean I don't care about other UMass sports.

Play pool Tuesday nights, can not attend the Dec 10th zoom meeting and missed last night and can not miss 2 straight weeks. Since it's my money, I want to be giving towards football and needs to be separate from basketball, which I do give. But need to know that the lion share of my giving is going towards football before restarting my football NIL donations.
Hey Steve - Let me know a good time we can chat, shoot me a text at 413-687-5232 happy to jump on a call if you cant make the meeting.

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Post by Steve81 » Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:31 pm

umasscollective wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:18 pm
Steve81 wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:12 am Want to add some background, now the NIL commitment is part of the HC contract.
https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1864307443548799308
Story on UMass' expected hire of Rutgers DC Joe Harasymiak. UMass will have nearly $2 million in NIL/revenue share for the 2025 season and $3 million for 2026, per sources. Harasymiak will also have a staff pool of more than $2.7 million
Was talking to a Missouri fan, who said the NIL being part of the athletic department was part of the P4 push for it. Look, you have Arkansas fans who don't make much money and to think they are going to donate towards a student athlete making 6 figures is not happen as much as they'd like.

So full understand the Athletic department's need to bring NIL's in house so they can compete with good coaching candidates. Now that does not answer the Mass Collective being brought in house or not. Feel Pat is connected with the Athletic department and could have a roll in all this. As a fan do spend more than I should on UMass athletics with the lion share towards football. That does not mean I don't care about other UMass sports.

Play pool Tuesday nights, can not attend the Dec 10th zoom meeting and missed last night and can not miss 2 straight weeks. Since it's my money, I want to be giving towards football and needs to be separate from basketball, which I do give. But need to know that the lion share of my giving is going towards football before restarting my football NIL donations.
Hey Steve - Let me know a good time we can chat, shoot me a text at 413-687-5232 happy to jump on a call if you cant make the meeting.
Reply - thank you and really appreciate all you do for UMass!!
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Post by Steve81 » Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:06 am

This is interesting news from Kevin Stone's X.
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Formal release is out.
https://umassathletics.com/news/2024/12 ... -retention
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Post by umassbaseball » Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:02 pm

Whatever happened to the Midnight Ride Collective podcast? Seems like they basically just stopped doing it in early October except for one on Nov 6

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Post by eldonabe » Fri Dec 06, 2024 3:53 pm

umassbaseball wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:02 pm Whatever happened to the Midnight Ride Collective podcast? Seems like they basically just stopped doing it in early October except for one on Nov 6
Seriously - they have shuddered everything at this point. Hopefully new management will handle things a little better this time around.

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Post by dennisdent » Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:09 pm

My take is some big donor(s) wanted to donate a large amount of money towards the UMass NIL mission. Maybe they didn't want the MRC to touch their money for a myriad of reasons. With the rule changes, the donor(s) are now able to give the money to UMass, to give to the players. This set Corey off and he went scorched earth on Bamford and the football program online and in the newspapers. Hopefully with the NIL donations coming in house there will be more scrutiny on how the money is used, and people will feel more willing to donate.

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