Don Brown

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Re: Don Brown

Post by eldonabe » Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:33 am

I am not sure where I fall on the timing. The act, in and of itself, is correct. There is way too much money involved at this stage of the game for "classy" to be part of the process. One thing I do know is that if Bamford in in charge of replacing Brown, then they are still not serious about FBS.

Here is my guess - backed up by nothing credible just my gut feeling:



The rest of the house cleaning is about to commence.... The let RB be the bad guy to deliver the news to Brown, and now Bamford will get his papers in the next day or two which will include some other changes in that mess of a department he has built.

That is not a flip of a switch and they need to be in position to pursue coaches with a new AD and department in place. Hence the timing of doing this with Brown. I suspect that they have something in the works for a new AD already.

Then they release this "announcement" they have teased about the future.


- New AD in place
- Open HC
- Something of a real plan for the future

- Something real to sell to a new HC Candidate

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Re: Don Brown

Post by stevemaz » Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:37 am

eldonabe wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:33 am I am not sure where I fall on the timing. The act, in and of itself, is correct. There is way too much money involved at this stage of the game for "classy" to be part of the process. One thing I do know is that if Bamford in in charge of replacing Brown, then they are still not serious about FBS.

Here is my guess - backed up by nothing credible just my gut feeling:



The rest of the house cleaning is about to commence.... The let RB be the bad guy to deliver the news to Brown, and now Bamford will get his papers in the next day or two which will include some other changes in that mess of a department he has built.

That is not a flip of a switch and they need to be in position to pursue coaches with a new AD and department in place. Hence the timing of doing this with Brown. I suspect that they have something in the works for a new AD already.

Then they release this "announcement" they have teased about the future.


- New AD in place
- Open HC
- Something of a real plan for the future

- Something real to sell to a new HC Candidate
Amazing when you and I are on the same page... I expect Bamford to get the axe this week as he should not be involved with hiring the next football coach. Something tells me we will be hiring a new basketball coach too by March 2026

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Re: Don Brown

Post by Floyd » Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:52 am

I don't know, I don't see Frank being let go unless there's some major event that rocks the program. And would he want to start over somewhere else at this point in his career? Guy can recruit, can coach, and is a solid guy. I think he wants to build UMass into a winner
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Re: Don Brown

Post by eldonabe » Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:04 am

stevemaz wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:37 am
eldonabe wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:33 am I am not sure where I fall on the timing. The act, in and of itself, is correct. There is way too much money involved at this stage of the game for "classy" to be part of the process. One thing I do know is that if Bamford in in charge of replacing Brown, then they are still not serious about FBS.

Here is my guess - backed up by nothing credible just my gut feeling:



The rest of the house cleaning is about to commence.... The let RB be the bad guy to deliver the news to Brown, and now Bamford will get his papers in the next day or two which will include some other changes in that mess of a department he has built.

That is not a flip of a switch and they need to be in position to pursue coaches with a new AD and department in place. Hence the timing of doing this with Brown. I suspect that they have something in the works for a new AD already.

Then they release this "announcement" they have teased about the future.


- New AD in place
- Open HC
- Something of a real plan for the future

- Something real to sell to a new HC Candidate
Amazing when you and I are on the same page... I expect Bamford to get the axe this week as he should not be involved with hiring the next football coach. Something tells me we will be hiring a new basketball coach too by March 2026
If that happens, that is by Franks choice only. That is too expensive a buy out for them to absorb. Hoops is gonna struggle no matter what. This season is already shaping up to be a turd and we have not even taken the step backwards yet. Frank is a culture / cohesion guy. That style is tough when you are rolling over 70% of your roster every year.

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Re: Don Brown

Post by dennisdent » Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:57 am

In the email that was sent out, it says they are going to release the new plans for the football program. If Bamford is fired now, who will be working on it and presenting said plan? Just don't see him be firing until the plan is released, if he's fired at all. Just imagine if Carvel was named AD... :D

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Re: Don Brown

Post by PreecherJenkins » Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:23 am

dennisdent wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:57 am In the email that was sent out, it says they are going to release the new plans for the football program. If Bamford is fired now, who will be working on it and presenting said plan? Just don't see him be firing until the plan is released, if he's fired at all. Just imagine if Carvel was named AD... :D
Think bamford has a “concept of a plan”
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Re: Don Brown

Post by dennisdent » Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:30 am

"In the next month, we plan to release information regarding a path forward for Massachusetts football, including important program enhancements. These enhancements will be incorporated into our larger athletics department strategic vision which will be rolled out in the first half of 2025. Our intention is to outline significant additional investments that will serve as pillars in our plan to meet two important moments: our upcoming move to the Mid-American Conference and the integration of additional benefits and NIL activities which can be formally organized by the department starting in July 2025."

I nominate Zoomass to present this instead of Bamford.

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Re: Don Brown

Post by DougW » Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:32 am

I know this isn't related to Don Brown, but for the love of God please tell me this "plan" involves upgrading or replacing McGuirk.

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Re: Don Brown

Post by 69MG » Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:49 am

Floyd wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:52 am I don't know, I don't see Frank being let go unless there's some major event that rocks the program. And would he want to start over somewhere else at this point in his career? Guy can recruit, can coach, and is a solid guy. I think he wants to build UMass into a winner
I will be really pissed if Frank is let go. Is BB perfect, no, but it has a chance to be good. We are not going back to 1996, so "good" is OK with me. What is "good"? Making the NCAA once every 5 years and the NIT every 2 or 3 will do. This is a FB thread so I'll stop here.

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Re: Don Brown

Post by eldonabe » Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:54 am

dennisdent wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:57 am In the email that was sent out, it says they are going to release the new plans for the football program. If Bamford is fired now, who will be working on it and presenting said plan? Just don't see him be firing until the plan is released, if he's fired at all. Just imagine if Carvel was named AD... :D
Why would you allow the guy to draft a plan that he is not (should not) going to be here to implement? That plan might barely qualify as toilet paper to the new guy coming in. Fuck that... His office should be empty by COB Friday.

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Re: Don Brown

Post by dennisdent » Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:13 am

eldonabe wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:54 am
dennisdent wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:57 am In the email that was sent out, it says they are going to release the new plans for the football program. If Bamford is fired now, who will be working on it and presenting said plan? Just don't see him be firing until the plan is released, if he's fired at all. Just imagine if Carvel was named AD... :D
Why would you allow the guy to draft a plan that he is not (should not) going to be here to implement? That plan might barely qualify as toilet paper to the new guy coming in. Fuck that... His office should be empty by COB Friday.
I've posted on here for years that I felt Bamford is an empty suit and should be at a NESCAC school or another D3 like his father. He is the Peter Principal in action at UMass. How many were defending Bamford just a year ago on what a great guy he is and his hires of Carvel, Brown and Martin. Wasn't me, I knew he was a snake like they all are at that level. He sent his minions to ask me for money directly, and I wasn't impressed with them and what they presented to me.

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Re: Don Brown

Post by Quann » Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:14 am

Don won 6 games in 3 seasons. He should have been let go 2 games ago. This is FBS football, you don’t get results, you get fired.
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Re: Don Brown

Post by dennisdent » Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:16 am

Quann wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:14 am Don won 6 games in 3 seasons. He should have been let go 2 games ago. This is FBS football, you don’t get results, you get fired.
Only two FBS and too close over bottom FCS schools!

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Re: Don Brown

Post by Quann » Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:18 am

dennisdent wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:16 am
Quann wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:14 am Don won 6 games in 3 seasons. He should have been let go 2 games ago. This is FBS football, you don’t get results, you get fired.
Only two FBS and too close over bottom FCS schools!

It’s crazy how much of a failure his second go around was. I will say they competed in most games but always found ways to lose.
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Re: Don Brown

Post by dennisdent » Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:25 am

Quann wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:18 am
dennisdent wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:16 am
Quann wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:14 am Don won 6 games in 3 seasons. He should have been let go 2 games ago. This is FBS football, you don’t get results, you get fired.
Only two FBS and too close over bottom FCS schools!

It’s crazy how much of a failure his second go around was. I will say they competed in most games but always found ways to lose.
He didn't coach to win as was shown in many games. He was a million times better than Bell!

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