NCAA/Schools Paying Players - What's Next?

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Re: NCAA/Schools Paying Players - What's Next?

Post by Steve81 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:21 pm

Juice Stand wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 7:02 am The Gazette did a two-part series on the proposed NCAA settlement. For dummies like me, this was a nice breakdown of that the deal is, how UMass might be affected, and how joining the MAC may save our bacon. For all the negative nellies out there, yes we're still going to be screwed and won't be able to keep up with the SEC or Big 10 financially, but making the move to the MAC might put us in the room and give us a seat at the table, even if it's only the kids table.

Part 1: https://www.gazettenet.com/Part-1-How-w ... l-55484476
Part 2: https://www.gazettenet.com/Part-2-How-i ... l-55495331
Part two had some interesting figures.
As a result of UMass’ move from the A-10 to the MAC, it will earn more (thanks to the MAC’s TV deal) and also pay less into the settlement than if they had stayed in the A-10. Because the A-10 is a stronger basketball league with a stronger NIL presence than the MAC, its schools will have to pay more into the settlement.

So, where is this $400,000-500,000 coming from? UMass will have to cut expenses or make up the revenue through other sources. Athletic facilities projects – though usually almost fully sourced by philanthropic donations – will most likely take a pause.

“We’re going to have to figure out how to meet those needs in other ways,” Bamford said. “Either that, or we’re going to have to figure out how to cut $400-500,000 out of our budget, which we don’t want to do.”

Bamford said that everything is being reviewed, from the ways UMass fundraises to how it sets up its third party agreements, media rights deals and corporate sponsorships.

Many schools may decide to cut Olympic sports to compensate for lost revenue paid into the settlement. Payments to athletes are another expense line, if a school chooses to opt in to the revenue-sharing model. Like many other ADs across the country, Bamford said cutting sports programs altogether is a last resort. Ultimately though, the money has to come from somewhere. There are only so many athlete services, athletic department positions and coaching salaries that can be cut.
While UMass’ revenues will take a hit, it’ll also see a large increase in TV revenue because of the MAC’s football media rights deal with ESPN, which will pay the school about $1.5-2.5 million per year. This is several times what UMass would expect to earn from Atlantic 10 revenues, which come primarily from men’s basketball. The Minutemen will receive 75% of a share of MAC distributions in 2025-26 (expected to be between $1.5-2 million) and a full share every year thereafter (expected to be between $2-2.5 million).
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Re: NCAA/Schools Paying Players - What's Next?

Post by Old Cage » Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:12 pm

Where no man has gone before:

"Breaking: Big 12 considering private equity investment of up to $1 billion for as much as 20% of conference - http://CBSSports.com"

My interest wanes a little more with each new headline.
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Re: NCAA/Schools Paying Players - What's Next?

Post by UMass'96 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:30 pm

I'm sure that this is exactly what people were thinking when they said that players in college should be paid... :lol: :roll:
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Post by eldonabe » Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:31 pm

UMass'96 wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:30 pm I'm sure that this is exactly what people were thinking when they said that players in college should be paid... :lol: :roll:
If Gordon Gekko was talking, that would have been the thought....

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Post by m626t » Sat Jun 15, 2024 6:35 pm

coming soon...Big 12 making a pitch on Shark Tank
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Post by eldonabe » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:12 am

Allowing these players to get paid has opened the biggest Pandora's box ever. I am not suggesting that they do not get paid, not at all. For what these schools receive in TV deals and merch sales etc.... these kids deserve to get a piece.

The problem is how much? The entirety of D1/FBS... whatever... do not play on a level playing field and they never have. Umass is not comparable to Duke or Alabama or almost any P5 even though they are "all in the same division". Pretending to do so is just delusional.

- How is Umass supposed to compete with an athletics budget that is multiples of theirs?
- How is Umass supposed to compete with an NIL package that is a multiples of theirs?

There will never ever be any rules in place to answer or mitigate those two questions. It is a problem as old as time, The Have's and Have Nots. it is really hard, if not impossible to break into the Have's Group. UConn seems to have done so as much as anyone can, but their football still sucks balls.


Right now this is the wild west, all you need is one single person with deep pockets and you can buy a Final 4 run (like Miami did). He spent 10 years of "UMass Collective money" on one player in one semester.... Think about that. You think giving the schools control will help? Umass cheaps out on everything, and you think turning over the Athlete spending to them is going to help level the playing field?

I cannot blame Frank, he needs to do whatever he can to help compete; but until the school really, truly starts to put their money where their mouth is, they (the AD) are simply taking advantage of the donors.

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Re: NCAA/Schools Paying Players - What's Next?

Post by DEM » Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:03 am

eldonabe wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:12 am Allowing these players to get paid has opened the biggest Pandora's box ever. I am not suggesting that they do not get paid, not at all. For what these schools receive in TV deals and merch sales etc.... these kids deserve to get a piece.

The problem is how much?
From day 1, I was against this policy of athlete salaries. The problem is that the true unstated objective was never about any kind of fairness for college athletes... that was just the selling point to justify it. It was really about turning college sports into a glorified professional development league, which is what we see happening, and it's ruining it.

If the decision makers actually wanted to address the true problem (which I would sum up as money going to places/people other than student athletes), there could have been any number of other solutions. Off the top of my head - take the profits (or some portion) and distribute them across the board as a stipend to all division 1 athletes (volleyball, wrestling, basketball, lacrosse, etc) in equal amounts. Or put it into a pot and make it an academic scholarship fund for participating schools. There are probably a number of other ideas that could have been fine.

Instead, the NCAA chose corruption. Which shouldn't be surprising, I guess.

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Re: NCAA/Schools Paying Players - What's Next?

Post by Juice Stand » Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:42 am

Interesting article in the Gazette today from Charles Macauley, an Isenberg Sports Management assistant professor: https://www.gazettenet.com/The-Real-Sco ... d-55689593

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