Hickman v Roe et al

[EBox]

FWIW, a simple Google search yields another suit brought by this woman against a motel in Chicopee which was filed in Jan 2017. She seems to be involved in more than one legal situation.

[PreecherJenkins]

why wasnt the university or athletic department, the company that runs mullins center named in lawsuit? can a jd help out here?

[TheInsider]

That's why I think it's probably BS... but these days perception trumps reality

[Old Cage]

Well, thank the random guy on the UConn board for bringing this to our attention. Unreal it slipped through the cracks. Nothing from Matty V or anyone else.

Agree, that it is unreal that the press or this board didn't have the story earlier, but it was not unknown. We went to UMass overnight on a game weekend several weeks ago, and I learned then why Lou was not around, but I don't think the person that told me had most of the details.

Also, if Ryan and others internally knew that Chatman was named as a participant - and I'm not claiming that they did - it could be damaging that he was not placed on leave.

[EBox]

Also found on the woman's facebook page dated 3/10 @ 2:38am:

"The only requirement was a sincere apology along side the truth. It's never too late until God requires your soul.

APOLOGIZE."

Coincidentally this was about 8 hours after DK was fired...

[Mass Grad]

I guess the first legal question is did they, could they actually act under the color of law. Looks more criminal rather than violation of civil rights law. I too would like to hear from the legal posters.

[CapeCodBruiser]

Is the bottom line of this situation that DK was loyal to his friend Lou and it came back to cost him? DK gave Lou a job when his playing career ended. Lou has a beautiful office in the Champions Center. But now because Lou had "pillow talk" with this accuser about intimate details surrounding players and coaches she is using it it to get a pay day. I am not Perry Mason but maybe the accuser's lawyer has already tried to settle with UM but after investigation they decided she has no chance so they welcome a trial to expose her. Thus the 3 year gap. Bamford said none of the assistants have been fired so I conclude Chatman and Lou are still on the payroll.

[NilesGold]

It would be hard to believe that Bamford didn't become aware of this on, or before, December 2016. Whether he had anything to do with putting Roe on leave is another matter. My suspicion is that UMass did its own internal investigation and determined that the claims vs the staff (other than Roe) were without merit. Maybe some of the claims vs Roe are without merit as well, but there was enough that UMass felt it necessary to sever ties (or at least put him on leave).

If true, the claims about UMass basketball players isn't a big deal, but the staff members trying to cover it up IS a big deal and very concerning. Again, if true, I hope Bamford got ahead of this and self reported to the NCAA as soon as he found out and took steps to address it internally so that he's not fostering, or turning a blind eye to a culture where things are covered up by coaches and administrators.

As far as I could tell the claims are limited to 4 staff members, Roe, Chatman, Hogans and Kellogg. No mention of Ginsburg, etc. This certainly can't help with our coaching search, but as long as Bamford took the correct actions I'm hopeful the impact will be minimal or nonexistant. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but the NCAA has way bigger fish to fry (see Baylor) and I don't think this really changes how attractive of a job UMass is for a new coach.

[minutefanjsf]

what sanctions would be held above the program? all the people who were named are gone.

Im no expert on NCAA sanctions but I didn't think they were above going back in time to penalize programs for prior misdeeds that were just discovered.

Penn state football?

[TheOFFSeason]

Here is one truth, this women is completely nuts...I won't go into anymore detail

[TheInsider]

^^^ I can believe this is a total $$ grab.

[minutefanjsf]

The filing was three months ago. We have no news of a hearing or the results of a hearing. The claims the woman made are her perception of an interaction between her and two men and then she claims to know DK covered it up. It was not filed in criminal court, so the authorities, if ever contacted dint think there was enough to go forward. The bar is lower to get a judgment in her favor in civil court, but the fact that no criminal charges were filed leads one to believe there is a lot more to this story. There is such a wide spectrum that this could fall into. Her and Lou could've gotten into a dispute, physical or verbal, and she threatened to go public with the fact that some players smoked weed and drank underage, and that a staff member fights with his wife or kids as a result of the dispute. She also claims that she was going to go public with staff members being unfaithful. We don't know if she got this information from Lou, others, or witnessed it firsthand. Seems she was friendly with Chatham's girlfriend from the filing. She then met with three guys on staff. She perceived that they were imprisoning her. Or, everything she filed is accurate. There is a lot of room to figure out what happened between those two ends.

[UMassHoops]

It is easy to react when you see the printed words because they sound bad and we are all decent people. We are rightfully horrified if they are true however WE DON'T KNOW THAT and it is one persons story. innocent until proven guilty, everyone deserves their opportunity to prove that. It is very easy to level accusations, only one side has anything to gain.

[umassfan.com]

No one thinks it's better for the story to be reported on, hopefully accurately, before posting and discussing on a message board?

I tried to address this in the beginning. I posted it BECAUSE it was being talked about after people saw it on the UConn forums. Rather than a giant speculation fest where some people saw the docket and and others didnt, I thought it better if everyone saw the docket. This is why after I heard about a while ago I didn't even mention it. Once it was out, having everyone see the full text is better, imo.

[eldonabe]

It is only one side of the story, but it looks like that is the only side available at this point, so at least the speculation and opinions flying around are based on everyone having the same information from which to speak.

I hate jumping to conclusions without knowing both sides so I am only watching and not really taking sides. I hope much of what in in that document is discredited -that is all I can say.