Here we go again....

Rudy Ruettiger · Post by **Rudy Ruettiger** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:02 pm

philosopher wrote: You really need to take everything you read, hear, and see with a grain of salt. I shook hands with a college department head, accepting a job offer as an associate professor. The next day, he called me and said he was withdrawing the offer to re-hire the retiring guy I was to replace. "Hey," he said, "he liked your materials and it rejuvenated him and so I owe him the shot to teach another 5 years." My point is that employers as well as employees live by the rule of "enlightened self-interest."

Phil - just a small aside: not sure how your example points to 'enlightened self-interest'... breaking the obligation doesn't seem virtuous in this case.

Crank · Post by **Crank** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:15 pm

What I want to hear from our coach is, "I like it here, I've got work to do here, I plan on staying." We're definitely not hearing that. I'd like to see us with a coach who is committed to staying a while.

That's the type of reassurance that Nick Saban gave to the Dolphins fans about 15 minutes before he left for Alabama!

vanmeter · Post by **vanmeter** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:28 pm

What I would like to see if Coach Ford leaves, and I hope and I do not think he will this year, is a buyout clause similar to what West Virginia had withCoach Beuliein. Michigan has to pay West Virginia 2.5 million to get Beulien. I think we should have this proviso on our next coach whenewrver that might be. Perhaps 2.5 million is a bit large but say 1.5 million.

That way if a coach get a long term contract, we get something if he decides to leave prior to the contract expiring.

Berkman · Post by **Berkman** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:30 pm

I think that TF has some kind of buyout clause in his contract.

DrG · Post by **DrG** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:11 pm

vanmeter wrote:What I would like to see if Coach Ford leaves, and I hope and I do not think he will this year, is a buyout clause similar to what West Virginia had withCoach Beuliein. Michigan has to pay West Virginia 2.5 million to get Beulien. I think we should have this proviso on our next coach whenewrver that might be. Perhaps 2.5 million is a bit large but say 1.5 million.

That way if a coach get a long term contract, we get something if he decides to leave prior to the contract expiring.

Unfortunately, the BCS schools have a little more leverage than we have.

nighttrain777 · Post by **nighttrain777** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:19 pm

MassDynasty321 wrote:Get the new contract with TF signed. If they guy doesn't have enough ethics to stay with a new contract that he just signed for another season, then I honestly wouldn't want him as my coach... anywhere.

As most people here would be quick to tell you, this applies to all coaches, but with the exception of one. It was okay for him to do that very thing.

Winslow05 · Post by **Winslow05** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:27 am

Get the new contract with TF signed. If they guy doesn't have enough ethics to stay with a new contract that he just signed for another season, then I honestly wouldn't want him as my coach... anywhere.

If I am not mistaken, TF had just signed an extention with EKU before he left to take the job here.

Used to be VOR · Post by **Used to be VOR** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:35 am

Ford signed a multi-year extension at EKU in August and then left for UMass in March. So, I would not get too secure regardless of what he signs.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... ndup_x.htm

Post by **MikeUMA** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:38 am

Collegian has a brief article about Ford's name being floated around in regards to the WVU opening.
http://media.www.dailycollegian.com/med ... /paper874/
news/2007/04/05/Sports/Umass.Sports.Log-2824414.shtml

Used to be VOR · Post by **Used to be VOR** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:51 am

ktabz16 wrote:everyone who has ever left a job for a better job better stop commenting now

I certainly was not chastising Ford for leaving EKU. My point was the people who feel a sense of security when a coach signs and extension or issues a public statement is fooling themselves.

Most coaches are more than happy to stare a kid and his family in the face and talk about how they will be there for the player, and then walk out the door the next week. It is just the nature of the NCAA business.

vanmeter · Post by **vanmeter** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:34 am

Ktabz,

Most of us do not have long term (or even) short term contracts. When you lost your job you may have gotten either nothing or a small severance. If a Basketball Coach like Coach Ford loses his job, he still get the remainder of his contract.

I am not criticizing Coaches who move up, however they get the best of both worlds.

Rudy Ruettiger · Post by **Rudy Ruettiger** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:31 pm

Used to be VOR wrote:
ktabz16 wrote:everyone who has ever left a job for a better job better stop commenting now
I certainly was not chastising Ford for leaving EKU. My point was the people who feel a sense of security when a coach signs and extension or issues a public statement is fooling themselves.

Most coaches are more than happy to stare a kid and his family in the face and talk about how they will be there for the player, and then walk out the door the next week. It is just the nature of the NCAA business.

Everybody knows...everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows.

UMASS06 · Post by **UMASS06** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:26 pm

I already posted but, I just saw on espn that Bob Huggins accepted the job at WVU. Does this mean TF is up for the Kansas State job?

uz2b-len · Post by **uz2b-len** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:36 pm

Would K-State really want to hire another guy who would be looking to leave after a year or two?

ElGuapo Hoy · Post by **ElGuapo Hoy** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:43 pm

Would K-State really want to hire another guy who would be looking to leave after a year or two?

You really need to take a deep breath and relax. USF wanted to talk with TF and he did not even go down as reported in the paper. The one little paper in West Virginia puts his name in there as a candidate and they immediately hire Huggins. Don't think that was true at all.

You can't just read stuff on the web and believe it. The only job that he would be interested in, just my opinion, would be Kentucky and rightfully so. Just relax and don't assume he wants to leave when he already has turned down opportunities to interview. Just because people want to talk with him does not mean he wants to leave.