Baseball 2023

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Re: Baseball 2023

Post by dennisdent » Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:06 pm

rsox1221 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:00 pm
dennisdent wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:57 pm
rsox1221 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:55 pm The issue with baseball though is it isn't about "finding the money," they don't have available scholarships to give it with the way they prioritize men's sports and with Title IX compliance in mind

There is no making it competitive again. The fact is they need to just drop it and move on. The fact that the haven't is a mistake
With NIL there is ways of finding the money!!!!!!

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... olarships/
Dennis, no there is not. BYU football and UMass baseball aren't in the same universe when it relates to this for a litany of reasons. Just because NIL exists doesn't mean every school everywhere has unlimited money for every sport they sponsor

There is no way on God's green earth that UMass is going to find an NIL deal that will pay the full freight for their baseball roster. That's legitimately insane



They need to cut the sport. That's the only truly sensible thing to do when looking at all the facts. It's a shame but it is long overdue
D1 baseball scholarships are 11.7 per team which can be divided by the 27 players. This is a hell of a lot less than football. If they want to keep baseball than they have to think outside the batter's box! :D Take 200k from Bamford's salary of 535k per season and problem solved! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Baseball 2023

Post by rsox1221 » Sun Mar 26, 2023 9:11 pm

OK we're done here

I hope UMass' athletic admin can find the stones to do what is necessary here. An irrelevant program for 2+ decades playing on the worst facilities at the school with zero scholarship support beyond this season. There is no reason to continue with such a scenario

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Re: Baseball 2023

Post by dennisdent » Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:37 am

rsox1221 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 9:11 pm OK we're done here
You responded to my posts! How about don't be such a douche bag with this response--know-it-all Mike T. You aren't the expert on all things UMass or the NIL, as I'm not either. You are getting insufferable on here and twitter!

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Re: Baseball 2023

Post by Quann » Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:01 am

I still have 4 years of eligibility left, didn't use them during my undergrad at UMass. If coach wants a 42 year old mediocre high school second basemen, I'm in, no scholly needed :D :D

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Re: Baseball 2023

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:06 am

I'd prefer Baseball be kept and funded at an appropriate level to be successful. We're at a breaking point here... the Department needs to decide if they are going to do that, or drop it. I suspect the latter will end up being the final answer, but I hope not.
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Re: Baseball 2023

Post by 69MG » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:03 am

I have only been to a few UM baseball games so I'm hardly an expert on this topic. In regard to funding, it would require a big chunk of change. If they go to 10 scholarships for baseball, they have to increase women's scholarships as well. The logical move here would be a women's hockey team, which we SHOULD have. I find it hard to believe that the money isn't out there, it would just take a big-time commitment from the administration to pour more money into athletics.

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Re: Baseball 2023

Post by Berkman » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:23 am

I doubt that that will happen. We have had a few decent teams and had several players drafted by major league teams the most significant I can remember is Mike Flanagan.

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Re: Baseball 2023

Post by jjmc85 » Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:52 am

69MG wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:03 am I have only been to a few UM baseball games so I'm hardly an expert on this topic. In regard to funding, it would require a big chunk of change. If they go to 10 scholarships for baseball, they have to increase women's scholarships as well. The logical move here would be a women's hockey team, which we SHOULD have. I find it hard to believe that the money isn't out there, it would just take a big-time commitment from the administration to pour more money into athletics.
With respect to Title IX; unless something has changed in the past two years, UMass is already not compliant. They already offer disproportionately more men’s scholarships than women’s, by about 100 or so scholarships. I’m not a Title IX expert but this is what UMass has released at their end of the year reports. So before they can add any men’s scholarships for any men’s sports including baseball I’d think they would have to add to women’s sports first.

Source if you want it (see page 21) https://www.umass.edu/senate/sites/defa ... 2021_0.pdf
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Re: Baseball 2023

Post by harbo » Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:13 am

Baseball is a tough sell in the Northeast, unless you can send the team to a bunch of southern opponents. We have had a few success stories in The Show: https://www.baseball-almanac.com/colleg ... yers.shtml

I'm saddened by the slow demise of the softball teams, currently at 8-17. We had a pretty good run for a while. Again, the Northeast is not a hotbed for softball for obvious weather reasons, but we overcame that obstacle for many years.

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Re: Baseball 2023

Post by dennisdent » Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:17 am

UConn, 16 - 6; BC 18 - 5; Northeastern, 18 - 4 and CCSU,12 - 4 are showing that NE college baseball teams can win if they have full scholarship programs filled with players from the northeast. What they don't have is male lacrosse programs taking away schollies and funding. Schools with lacrosse programs and baseball programs like Albany, Lowell, Siena, and UMass are doing really poor in baseball. Why field D1 baseball teams if you aren't gong to fully fund them.

How about staring a conference for northeast D1 baseball teams like they do in the D1 FCS non-scholarship Pioneer Football League. Oh wait that would take some thinking outside of the batter's box...

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Re: Baseball 2023

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:14 pm

Winning is difficult in general... you're not even giving this program a chance without properly funding them. Do so, or get rid of it. This is getting absurd.
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Re: Baseball 2023

Post by TruBluMaroon » Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:53 pm

dennisdent wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:17 am UConn, 16 - 6; BC 18 - 5; Northeastern, 18 - 4 and CCSU,12 - 4 are showing that NE college baseball teams can win if they have full scholarship programs filled with players from the northeast. What they don't have is male lacrosse programs taking away schollies and funding. Schools with lacrosse programs and baseball programs like Albany, Lowell, Siena, and UMass are doing really poor in baseball. Why field D1 baseball teams if you aren't gong to fully fund them.

How about staring a conference for northeast D1 baseball teams like they do in the D1 FCS non-scholarship Pioneer Football League. Oh wait that would take some thinking outside of the batter's box...
If they let D3 schools have a D1 hockey program, maybe they can let D1 schools have a D3 program 😀

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Re: Baseball 2023

Post by dennisdent » Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:11 pm

TruBluMaroon wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:53 pm
dennisdent wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:17 am UConn, 16 - 6; BC 18 - 5; Northeastern, 18 - 4 and CCSU,12 - 4 are showing that NE college baseball teams can win if they have full scholarship programs filled with players from the northeast. What they don't have is male lacrosse programs taking away schollies and funding. Schools with lacrosse programs and baseball programs like Albany, Lowell, Siena, and UMass are doing really poor in baseball. Why field D1 baseball teams if you aren't gong to fully fund them.

How about staring a conference for northeast D1 baseball teams like they do in the D1 FCS non-scholarship Pioneer Football League. Oh wait that would take some thinking outside of the batter's box...
If they let D3 schools have a D1 hockey program, maybe they can let D1 schools have a D3 program 😀
That makes too much sense! It really is a good idea. A nice weekend series against Westfield State, in Westfield instead of Wichita State. in freaking Kansas.

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Re: Baseball 2023

Post by Upstate10 » Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:34 pm

I just wish the state gave a fuck about UMass athletics.

Anyways, up 5-1 in the 2nd against 9th ranked BC in the Beanpot. Finish it boys!!

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Re: Baseball 2023

Post by Upstate10 » Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:34 pm

Fuck. No pitching again.

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