D1 baseball scholarships are 11.7 per team which can be divided by the 27 players. This is a hell of a lot less than football. If they want to keep baseball than they have to think outside the batter's box! Take 200k from Bamford's salary of 535k per season and problem solved!rsox1221 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:00 pmDennis, no there is not. BYU football and UMass baseball aren't in the same universe when it relates to this for a litany of reasons. Just because NIL exists doesn't mean every school everywhere has unlimited money for every sport they sponsordennisdent wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:57 pmWith NIL there is ways of finding the money!!!!!!rsox1221 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:55 pm The issue with baseball though is it isn't about "finding the money," they don't have available scholarships to give it with the way they prioritize men's sports and with Title IX compliance in mind
There is no making it competitive again. The fact is they need to just drop it and move on. The fact that the haven't is a mistake
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... olarships/
There is no way on God's green earth that UMass is going to find an NIL deal that will pay the full freight for their baseball roster. That's legitimately insane
They need to cut the sport. That's the only truly sensible thing to do when looking at all the facts. It's a shame but it is long overdue
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OK we're done here
I hope UMass' athletic admin can find the stones to do what is necessary here. An irrelevant program for 2+ decades playing on the worst facilities at the school with zero scholarship support beyond this season. There is no reason to continue with such a scenario
I hope UMass' athletic admin can find the stones to do what is necessary here. An irrelevant program for 2+ decades playing on the worst facilities at the school with zero scholarship support beyond this season. There is no reason to continue with such a scenario
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I still have 4 years of eligibility left, didn't use them during my undergrad at UMass. If coach wants a 42 year old mediocre high school second basemen, I'm in, no scholly needed
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I'd prefer Baseball be kept and funded at an appropriate level to be successful. We're at a breaking point here... the Department needs to decide if they are going to do that, or drop it. I suspect the latter will end up being the final answer, but I hope not.
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I have only been to a few UM baseball games so I'm hardly an expert on this topic. In regard to funding, it would require a big chunk of change. If they go to 10 scholarships for baseball, they have to increase women's scholarships as well. The logical move here would be a women's hockey team, which we SHOULD have. I find it hard to believe that the money isn't out there, it would just take a big-time commitment from the administration to pour more money into athletics.
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I doubt that that will happen. We have had a few decent teams and had several players drafted by major league teams the most significant I can remember is Mike Flanagan.
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With respect to Title IX; unless something has changed in the past two years, UMass is already not compliant. They already offer disproportionately more men’s scholarships than women’s, by about 100 or so scholarships. I’m not a Title IX expert but this is what UMass has released at their end of the year reports. So before they can add any men’s scholarships for any men’s sports including baseball I’d think they would have to add to women’s sports first.69MG wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:03 am I have only been to a few UM baseball games so I'm hardly an expert on this topic. In regard to funding, it would require a big chunk of change. If they go to 10 scholarships for baseball, they have to increase women's scholarships as well. The logical move here would be a women's hockey team, which we SHOULD have. I find it hard to believe that the money isn't out there, it would just take a big-time commitment from the administration to pour more money into athletics.
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Baseball is a tough sell in the Northeast, unless you can send the team to a bunch of southern opponents. We have had a few success stories in The Show: https://www.baseball-almanac.com/colleg ... yers.shtml
I'm saddened by the slow demise of the softball teams, currently at 8-17. We had a pretty good run for a while. Again, the Northeast is not a hotbed for softball for obvious weather reasons, but we overcame that obstacle for many years.
I'm saddened by the slow demise of the softball teams, currently at 8-17. We had a pretty good run for a while. Again, the Northeast is not a hotbed for softball for obvious weather reasons, but we overcame that obstacle for many years.
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UConn, 16 - 6; BC 18 - 5; Northeastern, 18 - 4 and CCSU,12 - 4 are showing that NE college baseball teams can win if they have full scholarship programs filled with players from the northeast. What they don't have is male lacrosse programs taking away schollies and funding. Schools with lacrosse programs and baseball programs like Albany, Lowell, Siena, and UMass are doing really poor in baseball. Why field D1 baseball teams if you aren't gong to fully fund them.
How about staring a conference for northeast D1 baseball teams like they do in the D1 FCS non-scholarship Pioneer Football League. Oh wait that would take some thinking outside of the batter's box...
How about staring a conference for northeast D1 baseball teams like they do in the D1 FCS non-scholarship Pioneer Football League. Oh wait that would take some thinking outside of the batter's box...
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Winning is difficult in general... you're not even giving this program a chance without properly funding them. Do so, or get rid of it. This is getting absurd.
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If they let D3 schools have a D1 hockey program, maybe they can let D1 schools have a D3 programdennisdent wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:17 am UConn, 16 - 6; BC 18 - 5; Northeastern, 18 - 4 and CCSU,12 - 4 are showing that NE college baseball teams can win if they have full scholarship programs filled with players from the northeast. What they don't have is male lacrosse programs taking away schollies and funding. Schools with lacrosse programs and baseball programs like Albany, Lowell, Siena, and UMass are doing really poor in baseball. Why field D1 baseball teams if you aren't gong to fully fund them.
How about staring a conference for northeast D1 baseball teams like they do in the D1 FCS non-scholarship Pioneer Football League. Oh wait that would take some thinking outside of the batter's box...
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That makes too much sense! It really is a good idea. A nice weekend series against Westfield State, in Westfield instead of Wichita State. in freaking Kansas.TruBluMaroon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:53 pmIf they let D3 schools have a D1 hockey program, maybe they can let D1 schools have a D3 programdennisdent wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:17 am UConn, 16 - 6; BC 18 - 5; Northeastern, 18 - 4 and CCSU,12 - 4 are showing that NE college baseball teams can win if they have full scholarship programs filled with players from the northeast. What they don't have is male lacrosse programs taking away schollies and funding. Schools with lacrosse programs and baseball programs like Albany, Lowell, Siena, and UMass are doing really poor in baseball. Why field D1 baseball teams if you aren't gong to fully fund them.
How about staring a conference for northeast D1 baseball teams like they do in the D1 FCS non-scholarship Pioneer Football League. Oh wait that would take some thinking outside of the batter's box...
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I just wish the state gave a fuck about UMass athletics.
Anyways, up 5-1 in the 2nd against 9th ranked BC in the Beanpot. Finish it boys!!
Anyways, up 5-1 in the 2nd against 9th ranked BC in the Beanpot. Finish it boys!!
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Fuck. No pitching again.