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wmmmfan
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by wmmmfan » Sun Nov 07, 2021 6:22 pm
McKinney wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:22 pm
McKinney wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:22 am
Brian Bohannon has absolutely killed it at Kennesaw State. That school didn't even sponsor football before he got there. Built up that program up from literally nothing to #17 in FCS, multiple conference championships and playoff appearances.
Obviously recruiting Georgia is different than Massachusetts. But KSU hasn't won on a strict talent advantage. Their roster is #202 on 247sports composite rankings.
I think he's a proven program manager who knows how to use the talent he's got. And eventually running the option here could be beneficial for a team that's never going to win recruiting battles at a high level. It's worked for Army, Navy, Coastal, New Mexico, GT, where they were at a talent disadvantage. Why not UMass?
McKinney wrote:Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:24 pm
Princeton's Bob Surace could be interesting. Over a decade of head coach experience, NFL experience, and was a finalist for National Coach of the Year. Turned Princeton around from a perennially mediocre team to a 3 time Ivy League Champion.
He's a northeast/New England guy: from Harrisburg, PA, coached at colleges in Massachusetts, Maine, Connecticut, New York, and New Jersey. Including at Springfield College.
But he's a Princeton alumnus and even though the Ivies aren't about athletics, they could probably counteroffer higher than UMass.
McKinney wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:27 am
Bob Chesney I think would be the best "fit" though. Proven head coach, background as a defensive mind, turned around 3 programs all in the Northeast at DIII, DII, and FCS. Off the field, he's run a clean program with some of the best APR scores in the country. If you need to convince university administration and boosters to pony up the cash, I think he's a really easy sell.
I’m in on Surace and Chesney they have proven themselves to be excellent HC’s with high academic standards. I liked Bohannon during the last search because it would be a total rebuild but not this time I couldn’t live through that again. He has done a great job at Kennesaw.
Harasymiak would be another coach I think would do a great job.
They don’t get any of these guys without a clear vision from the administration as to what is expected for the football program going forward, proper funding for the coaching staff and a conference. Too risky for their careers otherwise.
If the money and administration support is there but no conference soon then Brown or Golden would be the two I could see coming and being for UMass what Hugh Freeze has been for Liberty. Although I have heard UConn is Golden’s destination possibly.
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by 82grad » Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:39 pm
My son went to UMiami during the Al Golden years. He was a better recruiter than he was an on field coach and they always underachieved. He did have to deal with the huge booster scandal so that didn’t help.
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by ZooMass84 » Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:07 pm
wmmmfan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 6:22 pm
McKinney wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:22 pm
McKinney wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:22 am
Brian Bohannon has absolutely killed it at Kennesaw State. That school didn't even sponsor football before he got there. Built up that program up from literally nothing to #17 in FCS, multiple conference championships and playoff appearances.
Obviously recruiting Georgia is different than Massachusetts. But KSU hasn't won on a strict talent advantage. Their roster is #202 on 247sports composite rankings.
I think he's a proven program manager who knows how to use the talent he's got. And eventually running the option here could be beneficial for a team that's never going to win recruiting battles at a high level. It's worked for Army, Navy, Coastal, New Mexico, GT, where they were at a talent disadvantage. Why not UMass?
McKinney wrote:Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:24 pm
Princeton's Bob Surace could be interesting. Over a decade of head coach experience, NFL experience, and was a finalist for National Coach of the Year. Turned Princeton around from a perennially mediocre team to a 3 time Ivy League Champion.
He's a northeast/New England guy: from Harrisburg, PA, coached at colleges in Massachusetts, Maine, Connecticut, New York, and New Jersey. Including at Springfield College.
But he's a Princeton alumnus and even though the Ivies aren't about athletics, they could probably counteroffer higher than UMass.
McKinney wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:27 am
Bob Chesney I think would be the best "fit" though. Proven head coach, background as a defensive mind, turned around 3 programs all in the Northeast at DIII, DII, and FCS. Off the field, he's run a clean program with some of the best APR scores in the country. If you need to convince university administration and boosters to pony up the cash, I think he's a really easy sell.
I’m in on Surace and Chesney they have proven themselves to be excellent HC’s with high academic standards. I liked Bohannon during the last search because it would be a total rebuild but not this time I couldn’t live through that again. He has done a great job at Kennesaw.
Harasymiak would be another coach I think would do a great job.
They don’t get any of these guys without a clear vision from the administration as to what is expected for the football program going forward, proper funding for the coaching staff and a conference. Too risky for their careers otherwise.
If the money and administration support is there but no conference soon then Brown or Golden would be the two I could see coming and being for UMass what Hugh Freeze has been for Liberty. Although I have heard UConn is Golden’s destination possibly.
No Southerners
No one under 40
Must have HC experience
No P5 OC's
Must have a winning record
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by InnervisionsUMASS » Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:07 am
I'm asking for two things:
1: Previous HC experience. We've done the Coordinator thing twice now with no luck.
2: A budget to properly hire assistants. That includes a legit OC and DC. I do not want the head coach directly managing those areas.
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by TheInsider » Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:33 am
agree with both those... hopefully the administration makes the full commitment. Your Football coach runs the largest athletic organization on campus. They should make the most $$
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by InnervisionsUMASS » Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:37 am
Also:
DON'T REPLY ALL!
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by PreecherJenkins » Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:47 am
if you do not want a reply bcc everyone!
okay, more importantly, is this zoom link anywhere? Want to ask Bamford why he should be allowed to hire a new coach.
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JUST SAY NO TO THE MAC
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by dennisdent » Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:07 am
Now we know how many are in the GC!
Looking for the Zoom also!
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by InnervisionsUMASS » Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:20 am
I haven't been able to find a link for the presser.
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by PreecherJenkins » Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:45 am
Its another major fail by this athletic department. Need open communication
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by 69MG » Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:07 pm
How much is needed to attract a quality coach?
Kyle GrabowskiCrown
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"We’re definitely going to have to increase our coaching salary pool," Bamford, as part of explaining that football investment needs to be increased
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by McKinney » Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:16 pm
Personality and recruiting ability? Dude you should have kept Bell!
@TheDylanCorey wrote:
Bamford said he's "wide open" to hiring any coach regardless of prior experience or lack thereof. "I don't have a framework for any particular characteristics or side of the ball or coaching expertise." Said the focus is more on personality/fit/recruiting ability.
https://twitter.com/TheDylanCorey/statu ... 0718864385
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by TheInsider » Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:03 pm
wow.. so once again any actual track record of success won't be a driving factor. So if your a good salesman with good hair your at the top of the list again.
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by stevemaz » Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:30 pm
I say they go after someone in my image.. Polish and bald/balding..