2023 Season

[dennisdent]

Just happy to see more players who look like they have FBS level ability join the program. The faster the roster is turned over from the last coaching staff the better! After seeing the team basically quit against Army at home, I am taking a very wait and see attitude heading into this season.

[inthescoop]

If the over/under is 1.5 wins for next season, this time I'll be taking the over!

[Jack]

A point which is continually lost on some here. Obviously you need to improve to win, but until you actually do put up some wins, those "improvements" are dubious at most and the vast majority pf people could give a shit without that important part.

Many worthwhile points are lost on morons w/very low football IQs. The team and the program have improved under Coach Brown obviously and we need to continue upgrading the talent especially on offense and hopefully that translates into wins in 2023 - Go UMASS !!!!

And once again Jack decides to throw out the insults to make himself feel superior. You must be a hoot at parties....

Just when I was getting ready to turn the page and stop alluding to your insults, you fire it right back up. That's fine, I can do this all day. You just keep on insulting everyone like the elitist prick you are, and I will continue to mock your Dick-ish and holier-than-thou ways. Keep going to games and make a note of all those improvements - and go home after watching a loss - have fun.



More People are not going to go to McGuirk to watch the football team merely lose by less than before. People can and do see improvements. - Contrary to your "Low IQ insult" almost everyone can see the D was better. There are hundreds of stats and metrics that you can point to and show some kind of improvement (or decline). Even though you can point to those as progress, it still comes down to the one stat that matters - WINS. Nobody here (except Maz) is expecting Umass to get to a bowl game any time soon but ranking 131 out of 131 sucks - period.

Reading is fundamental. Please actually read what was stated before launching into one of your obscene diatribes. Whether you like it or not, the fact is that some people have low football IQs. Apparently pointing that reality out really bothers you.

Instead of using this board for obscenities and personal attacks, please just send me a message. Thanks.

[eldonabe]

Reading is fundamental. Please actually read what was stated before launching into one of your obscene diatribes. Whether you like it or not, the fact is that some people have low football IQs. Apparently pointing that reality out really bothers you.

Instead of using this board for obscenities and personal attacks, please just send me a message. Thanks.

Ok - How about stop trying to talk over everyone's head then? You seem to know it all and clearly nobody else does, nor do they care to. Calling people "Low IQ" anything is an insult FFS. You may be the smartest guy in the room, but you don't have to let everyone know that every f-ing time you post.

Wins matter more than yards per carry, or points allowed per game, defensive hurries, or any of the other improved stats drivel.... You can start a circle jerk about the nuances once the team figures out how to win a few games. Until then, they still suck, they just suck a little less is some ways.



And for the record, I do understand most of that more subliminal stuff and I can actually see some improvements too - but I don't really care about those things if it is not leading to some semblance of more wins - clearly most others don't either.

As you like to say Go Umass!!! Because the smiley face at the end is supposed to make all of your prior insults OK

[Jack]

I'm fine w/you making up fake arguments about stats and circle jerks that are not even worth responding to. If you want to discuss the 2023 UMass Season then do so and i'm happy to discuss that with you. In contrast, If you feel the need to resort to personal insults then send me a private message so that you don't hijack a discussion thread. I'll be more than happy to respond to you via private message. Got it ? Thanks. Go UMass

[Steve81]

Trust me I'm not like Dumb User name or somebody Max Page or whatever. I don't want us to drop back down to FCS or drop football. I want us to be happy for 12 Saturdays in the fall but like Bay Area UMie said: "it's structural". He must work in Silicon Valley or something because he's right. If it were up to me, immediately I'd get rid of Casula. The play calling is horrendous. I'd also swap out some games with G5's for a 1AA or even like NMSU did last season and they played a D2 school to get to 6 wins. Right now we need to get the kids' confidence up. I know we need the P5 bodybag games but they should be at the end of the season, not the beginning. The posters on this board are doing excellent research on coaches salaries and we pay well above the bottom (131). probably the top half of the MAC.
also, leaving the MAC was probably a big mistake. I know we want to stay with the A10 just like UConn rejoined the Big East but we have to move on from the A10. We're the only FBS school in there and all the schools in the A10 were really good generations ago.

We need to be comparing our spending against our peers, namely UConn. UConn is next door and chose a non football conference and independent, like us. Perhaps will look the stuff up, eventually.

UConn pays more and also has a lot more state support. They pay their coordinators near 375k and the head coach 1.5 million. They have to play in East Hartford, of course, though.

As suspected, we are not paying near the top half of the MAC as the A10 for some other sports.

Toledo's coach Candle got a contract extension. His base salary from the original 2017 contract went down from 1.2 M to 1.1M, but his buyout went way up from 450k and the same as incentives make the new contract package more incentive based and a much higher ceiling. .

This is a quote from a MAC thread on HC Candle's contract.

Yep. For example, win bonuses (12 game regular season)...

6 wins...was $0 (zero), now $75k
7 wins...$10,000 > $135,000
8 wins...$15,000 > $265,000
9 wins...$30,000 > $325,000
10 wins...$40,000 > $325,000
11 wins...$50,000 > $325,000

And if UT wins 9+ regular season game, he gets an automatic 1 year extension.

And his buyout if he is fired goes from $700,000 PER YEAR, to $900k TOTAL if fired in 2023; $800k TOTAL if fired in '24; $700k TOTAL if fired in '25.

The win bonus part of his contract has the potential of 1.45M before conference championship and bowl win. So say UConn with a not so generous incentive base contract is closer to the top MAC team. We fall way short and hopes this changes with some wins in the next two seasons and be at least in the same ball park of our true independent, neighbor peer, UConn.

Now on the soapbox.

Football does not honor UMass's greatest football coaches of all time, Dick MacPherson, who only left UMass for Syracuse when UMass elected to go 1AA. Don't expect a $5 Leaman game, but some acknowledgement of a great coach would be nice. Especially at a UConn home game this season. UConn was a Yankee Conference rival during his time at UMass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_MacPherson

[minutefanjsf]

We need to be comparing our spending against our peers, namely UConn. UConn is next door and chose a non football conference and independent, like us. Perhaps will look the stuff up, eventually.

UConn pays more and also has a lot more state support. They pay their coordinators near 375k and the head coach 1.5 million. They have to play in East Hartford, of course, though.

As suspected, we are not paying near the top half of the MAC as the A10 for some other sports.

Toledo's coach Candle got a contract extension. His base salary from the original 2017 contract went down from 1.2 M to 1.1M, but his buyout went way up from 450k and the same as incentives make the new contract package more incentive based and a much higher ceiling. .

This is a quote from a MAC thread on HC Candle's contract.

Yep. For example, win bonuses (12 game regular season)...

6 wins...was $0 (zero), now $75k
7 wins...$10,000 > $135,000
8 wins...$15,000 > $265,000
9 wins...$30,000 > $325,000
10 wins...$40,000 > $325,000
11 wins...$50,000 > $325,000

And if UT wins 9+ regular season game, he gets an automatic 1 year extension.

And his buyout if he is fired goes from $700,000 PER YEAR, to $900k TOTAL if fired in 2023; $800k TOTAL if fired in '24; $700k TOTAL if fired in '25.

The win bonus part of his contract has the potential of 1.45M before conference championship and bowl win. So say UConn with a not so generous incentive base contract is closer to the top MAC team. We fall way short and hopes this changes with some wins in the next two seasons and be at least in the same ball park of our true independent, neighbor peer, UConn.

Now on the soapbox.

Football does not honor UMass's greatest football coaches of all time, Dick MacPherson, who only left UMass for Syracuse when UMass elected to go 1AA. Don't expect a $5 Leaman game, but some acknowledgement of a great coach would be nice. Especially at a UConn home game this season. UConn was a Yankee Conference rival during his time at UMass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_MacPherson

I agree. UConn this year is a neutral site game, site TBD.

[dennisdent]

We need to be comparing our spending against our peers, namely UConn. UConn is next door and chose a non football conference and independent, like us. Perhaps will look the stuff up, eventually.

UConn pays more and also has a lot more state support. They pay their coordinators near 375k and the head coach 1.5 million. They have to play in East Hartford, of course, though.

As suspected, we are not paying near the top half of the MAC as the A10 for some other sports.

Toledo's coach Candle got a contract extension. His base salary from the original 2017 contract went down from 1.2 M to 1.1M, but his buyout went way up from 450k and the same as incentives make the new contract package more incentive based and a much higher ceiling. .

This is a quote from a MAC thread on HC Candle's contract.

Yep. For example, win bonuses (12 game regular season)...

Coach

6 wins...was $0 (zero), now $75k
7 wins...$10,000 > $135,000
8 wins...$15,000 > $265,000
9 wins...$30,000 > $325,000
10 wins...$40,000 > $325,000
11 wins...$50,000 > $325,000

And if UT wins 9+ regular season game, he gets an automatic 1 year extension.

And his buyout if he is fired goes from $700,000 PER YEAR, to $900k TOTAL if fired in 2023; $800k TOTAL if fired in '24; $700k TOTAL if fired in '25.

The win bonus part of his contract has the potential of 1.45M before conference championship and bowl win. So say UConn with a not so generous incentive base contract is closer to the top MAC team. We fall way short and hopes this changes with some wins in the next two seasons and be at least in the same ball park of our true independent, neighbor peer, UConn.

Now on the soapbox.

Football does not honor UMass's greatest football coaches of all time, Dick MacPherson, who only left UMass for Syracuse when UMass elected to go 1AA. Don't expect a $5 Leaman game, but some acknowledgement of a great coach would be nice. Especially at a UConn home game this season. UConn was a Yankee Conference rival during his time at UMass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_MacPherson

He's in the UMass Hall of Fame: https://umassathletics.com/honors/hall- ... pherson/88

This post is totally incorrect:
He left UMass to coach at the Cleveland Browns as LB coach, not Syracuse, and it had nothing to do with going to 1-AA. The Brown's coach was his buddy from their days coaching together with the Broncos, Sam Rutigliano. I know, I was there in Amherst at the time and privy to why he left UMass.

Please don't compare him to Jack when it comes to UMass. Coach Mac was here for a couple of stops over his career. Jack's whole career was at UMass, and finished as a broadcaster. Comparing footballs to basketballs.

[ZooMass84]

Just happy to see more players who look like they have FBS level ability join the program. The faster the roster is turned over from the last coaching staff the better! After seeing the team basically quit against Army at home, I am taking a very wait and see attitude heading into this season.

I'm optimistic about this season. The schedule is actually pretty favorable. In a 5 week span we have 4 home games before the Penn State game. EMU and Miami (OH) and Toledo are solid 6 win MAC schools year in year out but those are/were our peers. @NMSU should be competitive and they had to schedule a D2 school to get to bowl eligibility last year. Don't like the fact we gave up a 10-0 lead and lost to them. The Ark State game we never really had a shot at winning as we made it close in garbage time. New Mexico had better be a win as that is an ideal game (they fly across the country, no bye week before (better not happen again), horrendous 2-10 G5 team (beat Maine & UTEP). Merrimack should be an easy win.
The Portal guys we got are unbelievable. These aren't Brock Purdy types, these are 4 star P5 guys with unbelievable talent that without the Portal we would have absolutely NO shot at getting in a million years.
As for the playcalling by Casula last season was horrible and nonsensical. Don't know why but we're stuck with him. "He doesn't have players that fit his scheme"??? How about adjusting his scheme to fit his players??? Who is he Josh McDaniels or Vince Lombardi?

[Steve81]

He's in the UMass Hall of Fame: https://umassathletics.com/honors/hall- ... pherson/88

This post is totally incorrect:
He left UMass to coach at the Cleveland Browns as LB coach, not Syracuse, and it had nothing to do with going to 1-AA. The Brown's coach was his buddy from their days coaching together with the Broncos, Sam Rutigliano. I know, I was there in Amherst at the time and privy to why he left UMass.

Please don't compare him to Jack when it comes to UMass. Coach Mac was here for a couple of stops over his career. Jack's whole career was at UMass, and finished as a broadcaster. Comparing footballs to basketballs.

So isn't Coach Leaman, but his name is not on the court or have a name recognition game as Coach Leaman. Never mind discounting group tickets by 50% for a $5 game. Regarding why he left, you'd have to ask him if him* would have left if UMass did not decide to go 1AA. Definitely close enough for forum statements as he was more well known for Syracuse and the Patriots.

*Yes you could go to his grave and what you claim you heard is as good as anything else posted here.

[dennisdent]

He's in the UMass Hall of Fame: https://umassathletics.com/honors/hall- ... pherson/88

This post is totally incorrect:
He left UMass to coach at the Cleveland Browns as LB coach, not Syracuse, and it had nothing to do with going to 1-AA. The Brown's coach was his buddy from their days coaching together with the Broncos, Sam Rutigliano. I know, I was there in Amherst at the time and privy to why he left UMass.

Please don't compare him to Jack when it comes to UMass. Coach Mac was here for a couple of stops over his career. Jack's whole career was at UMass, and finished as a broadcaster. Comparing footballs to basketballs.

So isn't Coach Leaman, but his name is not on the court or have a name recognition game as Coach Leaman. Never mind discounting group tickets by 50% for a $5 game. Regarding why he left, you'd have to ask him if him* would have left if UMass did not decide to go 1AA. Definitely close enough for forum statements as he was more well known for Syracuse and the Patriots.

*Yes you could go to his grave and what you claim you heard is as good as anything else posted here.

Dig yourself deeper with more bullshit why don't you...So hard to just learn something from someone who was there... My neighbor was his close friend and said Mac was offered a job with Sam for more money to go back to the NFL. The salaries in those days at UMass were crap compared to DB making $900k this season.

"forum statement"=Troll.

[minutefanjsf]

Speaking of old coaches, When were the Fusia seats put in McGuirk? I can’t find anything online about those. Hoping they renumber the seats on the bleachers for the 2023 season.

[Old Cage]

^ Son of Fusia is among us. He should know.

[dennisdent]

Not sure if anyone saw this but Casula's former boss and mentor at Michigan, Josh Gattis was fired after ONE year at Miami! Casula outlasted him with the 2nd worst offense in FBS. Longer leash at UMass then Miami.

[ZooMass84]

Not sure if anyone saw this but Casula's former boss and mentor at Michigan, Josh Gattis was fired after ONE year at Miami! Casula outlasted him with the 2nd worst offense in FBS. Longer leash at UMass then Miami.

I didn't see it and I'll look it up but why in God's name is Casula still employed by UMass? 2nd worst offense in FBS and he keeps his job. Why do we hire and retain these shitty coaches like Molnar, Bell, Casula? I'll put it bluntly: if we don't beat New Mexico then he should be fired right after the game. He makes $250k and DB makes $900k......... this season had better be a good one for us: 4 of 5 weeks we're at home, 2-10 New Mexico and 3-9 Ark State, and we absolutely got some GREAT Portal guys.