Game 13, 2022-23: at St. Bonaventure (12/31)

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Game 13, 2022-23: at St. Bonaventure (12/31)

Post by MikeUMA » Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:40 pm

The semi-annual trip to the frozen tundra.

Bona is 6-6 at the moment, struggling to find their identity after losing pretty much everyone from last season. They play at Northern Iowa tomorrow night on ESPN+.

Noah might be back for that one, but TBD for sure.

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Re: Game 13, 2022-23: at St. Bonaventure (12/31)

Post by Worcester_To_Amherst » Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:34 am

Good opening test for conference play. Comparing rosters and results so far, UMass looks to be the better team. But it’s never easy to win against the Bonnies, especially in Olean.

These are the types of games you need to win to be near the top of the conference.

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Re: Game 13, 2022-23: at St. Bonaventure (12/31)

Post by stevemaz » Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:00 am

I think the 4-5 day break away from each other will serve as a good reset for the team. If Noah plays and is 90% of his normal, this will be a W

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Re: Game 13, 2022-23: at St. Bonaventure (12/31)

Post by eldonabe » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:47 am

stevemaz wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:00 am I think the 4-5 day break away from each other will serve as a good reset for the team. If Noah plays and is 90% of his normal, this will be a W
They are not favored in either of their next 2 games Oh Great One ....

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Re: Game 13, 2022-23: at St. Bonaventure (12/31)

Post by 69MG » Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:03 am

I posted this in another thread. We have lost 9 straight games to them. Some in Amherst, some in Olean and some in the A10 tournament. If Noah is back at 100% this might be our best shot at a win in Olean in a long time. However, we need to play 40 minutes, not 15 like we did last night. As Mike said, they have a totally new roster, even more so than us. 6 transfers and 3 freshmen get most of the minutes.

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Re: Game 13, 2022-23: at St. Bonaventure (12/31)

Post by Camby4Life » Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:05 am

eldonabe wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:47 am
stevemaz wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:00 am I think the 4-5 day break away from each other will serve as a good reset for the team. If Noah plays and is 90% of his normal, this will be a W
They are not favored in either of their next 2 games Oh Great One ....
Where are you getting future vegas lines?

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Post by 69MG » Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:18 am

^ ESPN has a predictor function and Warren Nolan also has one. I'm pretty sure they are based on some sort of analytics as they go out pretty far. Obviously, they can't take into account current performance, injuries, etc.

ESPN has is favored by .2 points with a 50.8% chance of winning.
Nolan has SBU favored by a point with a 54% chance of winning.

SBU is 6-6 but they are 5-1 at home. The home record in no surprise as they are always tough to beat in Olean.

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Re: Game 13, 2022-23: at St. Bonaventure (12/31)

Post by Camby4Life » Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:29 am

Big game for the Bonnie’s tonight. Loss at Northern Iowa will put them at 6-7 with a 4 game losing streak. If Noah returns, Vegas could still have Umass a favorite in this one.

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Re: Game 13, 2022-23: at St. Bonaventure (12/31)

Post by bottom line » Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:42 am

Two nights ago I watched a poor Siena team beat an equally poor St. Bonaventure team, and I thought to myself that UMass should have no trouble on the 31st, and then I watched that awful Dartmouth game last night. I really think that the Bonnies game on New Year's Eve will define the rest of the season for UMass.

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Re: Game 13, 2022-23: at St. Bonaventure (12/31)

Post by eldonabe » Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:52 am

Camby4Life wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:05 am
eldonabe wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:47 am
stevemaz wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:00 am I think the 4-5 day break away from each other will serve as a good reset for the team. If Noah plays and is 90% of his normal, this will be a W
They are not favored in either of their next 2 games Oh Great One ....
Where are you getting future vegas lines?
They are not Vegas lines yet - I am riding Maz to some degree.


I look at Massey College basketball Ratings. Umass % chance of winning is below 50% in each of the next 2 games. GW is teetering at 52% but that will change obviously depending on the next to outcomes.

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Re: Game 13, 2022-23: at St. Bonaventure (12/31)

Post by natwam2547 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:12 pm

bottom line wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:42 am Two nights ago I watched a poor Siena team beat an equally poor St. Bonaventure team, and I thought to myself that UMass should have no trouble on the 31st, and then I watched that awful Dartmouth game last night. I really think that the Bonnies game on New Year's Eve will define the rest of the season for UMass.
I'd say your crazy and then I remember the 2016-17 team and how they were a very similar 10-3 and opened up conference play against St. Bonaventure at home, and proceeded to lose by 12 and went 4-14 in conference play and DK got canned. So you have a solid point.

It's still baffling to me that that team didn't do better. Clark, Pipkins, the 2 NOLA recruits, solid depth guys like Anderson, Lewis, Baldwin. And we all saw what Flowers turned into, albeit against worse competition.

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Re: Game 13, 2022-23: at St. Bonaventure (12/31)

Post by NilesGold » Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:40 pm

eldonabe wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:47 am
stevemaz wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:00 am I think the 4-5 day break away from each other will serve as a good reset for the team. If Noah plays and is 90% of his normal, this will be a W
They are not favored in either of their next 2 games Oh Great One ....
In his defense, they lost to North Texas, so they didn't keep winning, which he predicated them being favored on.

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Re: Game 13, 2022-23: at St. Bonaventure (12/31)

Post by eldonabe » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:33 pm

NilesGold wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:40 pm
eldonabe wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:47 am
stevemaz wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:00 am I think the 4-5 day break away from each other will serve as a good reset for the team. If Noah plays and is 90% of his normal, this will be a W
They are not favored in either of their next 2 games Oh Great One ....
In his defense, they lost to North Texas, so they didn't keep winning, which he predicated them being favored on.

And from the other side of his Maroon-yapper he also said he would not touch that game (betting) with a 10 foot pole.

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Re: Game 13, 2022-23: at St. Bonaventure (12/31)

Post by Roadtrip » Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:08 pm

A win here would a huge boost for all. Got to find a way.

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Re: Game 13, 2022-23: at St. Bonaventure (12/31)

Post by stevemaz » Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:38 pm

NilesGold wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:40 pm
eldonabe wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:47 am
stevemaz wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:00 am I think the 4-5 day break away from each other will serve as a good reset for the team. If Noah plays and is 90% of his normal, this will be a W
They are not favored in either of their next 2 games Oh Great One ....
In his defense, they lost to North Texas, so they didn't keep winning, which he predicated them being favored on.
My guess on St Bona Spread will be Umass -1.5

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