Return of Derek Kellogg

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Re: Return of Derek Kellogg

Post by DoctorJ » Thu Aug 18, 2022 12:26 pm

DK had just offered Ndijue 10 days before he got axed at LIU. He signed with UMass days before DK was announced as AC.
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Re: Return of Derek Kellogg

Post by Juice Stand » Thu Aug 18, 2022 1:34 pm

Doc, are you suggesting that DK's arrival is already paying dividends? Two new recruits that he may have been responsible for?

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Re: Return of Derek Kellogg

Post by DoctorJ » Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:52 pm

Well, Kante came from LIU. He's going to the same place as DK. Not a coincidence.

Ndigue may be a different story but at least both FM and DK were interested. That says to me they were in agreement that he is a solid prospect.

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Re: Return of Derek Kellogg?

Post by LS71 » Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:39 pm

InnervisionsUMASS wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:54 am
LS71 wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:42 am
Curious to know if UMass/Commonwealth require pre-employment drug screens?
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Thanks IV. Unless I missed it the doc you pointed me to said nothing about pre-employment drug testing. It also expired n 2019. I didn't know that coaches are members of the union.
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Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:50 pm

LS71 wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:39 pm Thanks IV. Unless I missed it the doc you pointed me to said nothing about pre-employment drug testing. It also expired n 2019. I didn't know that coaches are members of the union.

Correct, that was to show you that you can likely find that info online. That was easily found via a quick Google search. I'm sure if you spend some more time on this rather than LinkedIn, you'll figure out the answer for yourself.


Hint: Look up Matt McCall's contract/MOU, though I don't recall you ever asking if he had to take a drug test upon getting hired.
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Re: Return of Derek Kellogg?

Post by fenway617 » Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:31 pm

skizz wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:27 pm
TruBluMaroon wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:34 pm This line is becoming a standard part of all hires….. pending the completion of a background check.
Why don’t they do the background check before they hire……someone trying to show they do their research on candidates…….wonder what other national players in the academic world make that part of their standard releases ?🤦‍♂️
It's probably a CORI which sometimes take a really long time. I also think you can't do one until they've been offered and accepted the position.
I work at UMass and the background checks are a long process and they use an outside company. CORI is part of it and much more. But if you clear the preliminary part you can start your employment while the rest of the process goes through the motions. Also, there was no pre-employment drug test.
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Re: Return of Derek Kellogg?

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:00 am

fenway617 wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:31 pm
I work at UMass and the background checks are a long process and they use an outside company. CORI is part of it and much more. But if you clear the preliminary part you can start your employment while the rest of the process goes through the motions. Also, there was no pre-employment drug test.

But are you a coach or a union member? LS NEEDS TO KNOW
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Re: Return of Derek Kellogg

Post by Jackson96 » Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:51 am

All this talk about pensions and background checks has me hot and bothered.

Please do continue.
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Re: Return of Derek Kellogg

Post by 69MG » Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:59 am

It's sad, but even this thread has gotten contaminated. With all the good news lately (at least in some eyes) we still have bickering. I guess that's what families do. :(

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Re: Return of Derek Kellogg

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:08 am

Jackson96 wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:51 am All this talk about pensions and background checks has me hot and bothered.

Please do continue.

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Re: Return of Derek Kellogg?

Post by LS71 » Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:53 am

fenway617 wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:31 pm
skizz wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:27 pm
TruBluMaroon wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:34 pm This line is becoming a standard part of all hires….. pending the completion of a background check.
Why don’t they do the background check before they hire……someone trying to show they do their research on candidates…….wonder what other national players in the academic world make that part of their standard releases ?🤦‍♂️
It's probably a CORI which sometimes take a really long time. I also think you can't do one until they've been offered and accepted the position.
I work at UMass and the background checks are a long process and they use an outside company. CORI is part of it and much more. But if you clear the preliminary part you can start your employment while the rest of the process goes through the motions. Also, there was no pre-employment drug test.
Thanks…I was curious. I’m involved in hiring at my company. Interesting that people can start work contingent on successful completion of the BG check as opposed to having to wait for completion.
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Re: Return of Derek Kellogg

Post by Sheck » Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:34 am

Jackson96 wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:51 am All this talk about pensions and background checks has me hot and bothered.

Please do continue.
And we haven't even gotten to the $64,000 question of whether LIU buyout money is going to be paying his salary as an assistant here. :lol:
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Re: Return of Derek Kellogg

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:49 am

In all seriousness, I have no idea if this is a good hire or not, but if Frank Martin thinks so, then so be it. We'll find out in a few years, assuming his role is mostly on the recruiting side.


In general, I still can't believe this happened after everything. Says a lot about Bamford and DK as people and professionals.
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Re: Return of Derek Kellogg

Post by DirSport » Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:09 am

Everything old is new again.

Well, maybe not everything.

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Re: Return of Derek Kellogg

Post by UMassfan_19 » Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:52 am

Sheck wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:34 am
Jackson96 wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:51 am All this talk about pensions and background checks has me hot and bothered.

Please do continue.
And we haven't even gotten to the $64,000 question of whether LIU buyout money is going to be paying his salary as an assistant here. :lol:
Would be funny because UMass buyout money helped pay his salary at LIU

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