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Re: 2021 Recruiting

Post by DanaDingle3 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:30 pm

Crank wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:30 pm Just saw that the NCAA has put out guidance on the one-time transfer rule for this year; it states that anyone that had previously transferred will still need to sit out a year. This appears to include grad transfers.
Ya, that's interesting; hadn't really thought about it. The waiver process is still available for those who've previously transferred, which would include both Kellys and Steadman. We know we can't rely on the waiver process, however.

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Post by NilesGold » Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:20 pm

^ I don't think it impacts Steadman, CJ Kelly, or Buttrick. Both CJ Kelly and Steadman sat a year after transferring previously, so they're allowed to take advantage of the new rule. Buttrick hasn't transferred before. The only one who this might impact would be Rich Kelly, who grad tranferred from Quinnipiac to BC.

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Post by Crank » Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:48 pm

What I read only said “previously transferred”; it doesn’t look like there’s any exception for having sat out before:
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/eligibility_cen ... ansfer.pdf

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Post by DanaDingle3 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:04 pm

NilesGold wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:20 pm Both CJ Kelly and Steadman sat a year after transferring previously, so they're allowed to take advantage of the new rule.
How do you figure? It's a one-time transfer exception.

I think grad transfers are immediately eligible, as they have been before. That might include Steadman and Rich Kelly. Not sure what CJ Kelly's situation is.

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Post by Crank » Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:25 am

By the letter of the rule in the link I added, grad transfers still have to satisfy the one time exception rule. That’s where the “has not previously transferred” language is included so it looks to me like only Buttrick will be eligible this year (unless a waiver is granted)

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Post by Worcester_To_Amherst » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:07 am

This entire offseason players were led to believe they could transfer without sitting. I think that should still apply, and the new guidance should be put in place once this season starts. Not sure the NCAA will see it that way, though.

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Post by Crank » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:33 am

^I agree, but if they don't we're screwed.

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Post by 69MG » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:13 am

It would be nice to hear from McCall or Bamford about this situation. I would hope that they have contacted whomever they have to in the NCAA to get clarification. I do agree that if the transfers have to sit we are screwed big time.

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Post by jrdupe » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:25 am

I think they need to go back to sit one year - that will cut down on all these transfers...but of course after this season so these guys coming to UMass can play this year :D

You have to sit one year, you will see the portal shrink by half

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Post by DoctorJ » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:51 am

The AD needs to address the status here on eligibility. If Steadman has to sit, we have a team of guards plus Buttrick, Dibaji, and DD! That's horrifying!!! Only one scholarship now. WTF??
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Post by kdogg8173 » Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:31 pm

I believe this year is still an exemption, this new rule goes into effect if you decide to transfer next year. At least that’s how I read this

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com ... basketball

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Post by Crank » Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:44 pm

I hope so but that article doesn't line up with the NCAA publication linked above. Here's the specific language from the FAQ:

"Postgraduate Transfer Eligibility
Q: What criteria does a student-athlete who has graduated with their baccalaureate degree need to meet to be eligible as postgraduate student at another Division I school?
A: A student-athlete who graduates with remaining athletics eligibility may be eligible as a full-time postgraduate student at another Division I school provided they meet the one-time exception criteria,
Q: What if the student-athlete transferred previously from another four-year school as an undergraduate student?
A: Generally, a student-athlete who has previously transferred from another four-year school would not be able to use the one-time exception as a postgraduate transfer. However, a waiver process exists for postgraduate students with a previous transfer history.

One-Time Transfer Exception Criteria for 2021-22 Enrollment
Q: What criteria does the student-athlete need to meet in order to utilize the new Division I one-time exception to seek immediate transfer eligibility?
A:In order to meet the criteria of the one-time transfer exception, the student-athlete must:
•Transfer from a four-year collegiate institution to an NCAA Division I school;
•Leave their current four-year school academically eligible;
•Have not transferred previously from another four-year institution, and
•Certify in writing, along with their new head coach, they did not have direct or indirect communication with the new school’s athletics staff prior to entering the NCAA Transfer Portal."

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Post by kdogg8173 » Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:53 pm

I think it does though, it’s talking about if you transfer during the 21-22 year not for this coming year. That’s why it says beginning fall 21 in the first paragraph

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Post by NilesGold » Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:08 pm

^ If I understand this correctly, it essentially eliminates the grad transfer exception.

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Post by Crank » Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:08 pm

I'm specifically referencing the "One-Time Transfer Exception Criteria for 2021-22 Enrollment" section. That indicates enrollment for this fall. They also mention the requirement to notify your current school by July 1, 2021. I see the part you are referencing Kdogg-hopefully this is just a poorly drafted document.

Niles-It seems to do just that for anyone that has transferred previously.

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