Around the A-10 (2018-19)

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Re: Around the A-10 (2018-19)

Post by Juice Stand » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:31 am

As mentioned previously by Minutemaniac, Davidson's not getting in as an at-large. Remember, they lost to us, which is about as bad a loss as you can have on your resume. Damn, that's sad.

Who do you all think could do more damage in the tournament? St Lou or Brownaventure? Coach-wise, I think maybe Brownaventure has an edge on Travis Ford, but it looks like the St Louis we expected all year long is finally hitting their stride. I'd like to see St Louis get there and hopefully do some damage, even though I hate that damn Billiken.

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Re: Around the A-10 (2018-19)

Post by Badger13 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:12 am

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Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:31 am
As mentioned previously by Minutemaniac, Davidson's not getting in as an at-large. Remember, they lost to us, which is about as bad a loss as you can have on your resume. Damn, that's sad.

Who do you all think could do more damage in the tournament? St Lou or Brownaventure? Coach-wise, I think maybe Brownaventure has an edge on Travis Ford, but it looks like the St Louis we expected all year long is finally hitting their stride. I'd like to see St Louis get there and hopefully do some damage, even though I hate that damn Billiken.
Tough one....I feel like Scmidt could be better than Ford and be a surprise in the tournament. Glad A10 will get at least 2 teams in!

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Re: Around the A-10 (2018-19)

Post by McKinney » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:59 am

FWIW I think the A10 will have several NIT teams as well.
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Re: Around the A-10 (2018-19)

Post by Badger13 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:16 am

McKinney wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:59 am
FWIW I think the A10 will have several NIT teams as well.
Who you thinking? Davidson, Dayton .....

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Re: Around the A-10 (2018-19)

Post by McKinney » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:11 pm

Badger13 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:16 am
McKinney wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:59 am
FWIW I think the A10 will have several NIT teams as well.
Who you thinking? Davidson, Dayton .....
I ran a logistic regression on KenPom rating vs postseason appearances for the past nine seasons (since the NCAAT expanded to 68 teams in 2011). Using that I summed the probability of making at least the NIT given the current ratings of every team in the A10. I got an expected value of 3.08 teams making at least the NIT.

The A10 teams favored to make at least the NIT are VCU (89%), Dayton (78%), and Davidson (57%).

And then, of course, the winner of the championship (SLU or Bona) is guaranteed a spot in the NCAAT. So I think that could potentially be a 4th or maybe even 5th NIT+NCAA combined bid we steal.

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Post by uz2b-len » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:49 pm

Anybody watching the A-10 finals? There's a lot to notice there but I have this one question. Is the play-by-play announcer the same guy who does wait wait don't tell me? What's his name, Peter Sagel? Maybe it's his brother. Sounds just like him!
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Post by Juice Stand » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:12 pm

Wow, what a game. Great fight by St Louis to stay in there and get the lead in the final minutes. Heartbreaker for the Bonnies.

Also, Len, the announcers are Ian Eagle and Jim Spanarkel. Ian also does play-by-play for the NFL and Spanarkel has been doing NCAA hoop for years.

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Post by TheInsider » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:18 pm

SlU.. worst to the NCAA in a pretty short amount of time. T. Ford.. best coach we've had since Cal

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Re: Around the A-10 (2018-19)

Post by Badger13 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:22 pm

McKinney wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:11 pm
Badger13 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:16 am
McKinney wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:59 am
FWIW I think the A10 will have several NIT teams as well.
Who you thinking? Davidson, Dayton .....
I ran a logistic regression on KenPom rating vs postseason appearances for the past nine seasons (since the NCAAT expanded to 68 teams in 2011). Using that I summed the probability of making at least the NIT given the current ratings of every team in the A10. I got an expected value of 3.08 teams making at least the NIT.

The A10 teams favored to make at least the NIT are VCU (89%), Dayton (78%), and Davidson (57%).

And then, of course, the winner of the championship (SLU or Bona) is guaranteed a spot in the NCAAT. So I think that could potentially be a 4th or maybe even 5th NIT+NCAA combined bid we steal.

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So it should be NCAA T- VCU ,St Loius ...........-NIT-Dayton ,St Bona, Davidson...No?

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Re: Around the A-10 (2018-19)

Post by Juice Stand » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:34 pm

After watching SLU hoist that trophy, and the joy that they displayed on the court, my passion for UMass hoops is renewed and can be summed up in the following clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mfSfekiZeE

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Re: Around the A-10 (2018-19)

Post by econalum » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:24 pm

It's SLU and VCU. Just 2.
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Post by uz2b-len » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:35 pm

Good thing VCU fell in Bklyn or it would have been 1.
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Re: Around the A-10 (2018-19)

Post by McKinney » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:08 pm

Badger13 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:22 pm
So it should be NCAA T- VCU ,St Loius ...........-NIT-Dayton ,St Bona, Davidson...No?
If we had 5.... Yessir. And while Bona wasn't likely to make it as an NIT at-large (25% chance), since they did make the conference title game I think one could argue they got robbed. Some have certainly argued Schmidt should have been A10 COY. Oh well.

As it turns out:

NCAAT: VCU, SLU
NIT: Dayton, Davidson

For a shitty year, 4 NIT+NCAA ain't bad. Two of those being NCAA bids isn't ideal, but it could have been worse. IIRC the current members of the A10 have averaged just north of 4 combined bids per year over their entire history.
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Re: Around the A-10 (2018-19)

Post by Juice Stand » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:51 am

A10talk.com story on SLU winning the title, and "Team Blue". McCall's right, we need more guys that buy in to playing for each other and the University.
https://www.a10talk.com/holy-s-saint-lo ... ournament/

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Re: Around the A-10 (2018-19)

Post by MJatUM » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:06 am

McKinney wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:08 pm

For a shitty year, 4 NIT+NCAA ain't bad.
BuT WhAt AbOuT ThE MaC????

In one of the worst A-10 years I can remember they still doubled up the MAC in Postseason teams (single bid conference in both tournaments).

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