KAEO: Tre Mitchell

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by 69MG » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:45 am

69MG wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:28 am ^ The opponent is Montverde Academy, a BB powerhouse from FL. Check out their website. Recent grads are Ben Simmons, Joel Embiid and that Kyrie guy.

I think the 2 guys Mitchell is going against are 7-1 Koprivica, a 4* player going to FL State and Precious Achiuwa, the #12 player in the country. Kind of hard to tell from their photos, but they are on the roster.

https://mvasports.com/sports/2016/12/29 ... ath=mbball

https://mvasports.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball
Have to correct myself. It wasn't Koprivica, it was Zahkarov, who is going to Gonzaga. I think it was Insider who called it and he was correct. I don't see Zahkarov on the roster so maybe he left Montverde early.

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by TruBluMaroon » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:40 am

TheOFFSeason wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:43 pm
Old Cage wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:03 pm A guy with zero days of college coaching and/or administrative experience is going to be Associate Head Coach?

What could possibly go wrong? :?
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TB has built 4 programs and developed many kids...he’s 48 so not a kid...I think your worried for the wrong reason
Correct, you should be woried about certain players having an allegiance to an assistant coach and not the head coach......and an assistant coach who will be looking out for his guys.....which will cause a division within the team and create internal problems.

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by minutefanjsf » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:42 am

TruBluMaroon wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:40 am
TheOFFSeason wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:43 pm
Old Cage wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:03 pm A guy with zero days of college coaching and/or administrative experience is going to be Associate Head Coach?

What could possibly go wrong? :?
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TB has built 4 programs and developed many kids...he’s 48 so not a kid...I think your worried for the wrong reason
Correct, you should be woried about certain players having an allegiance to an assistant coach and not the head coach......and an assistant coach who will be looking out for his guys.....which will cause a division within the team and create internal problems.
Or conversely he will not look out for “his” guys and they will be unhappy. TB will have to be very diplomatic.

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by uz2b-len » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:45 am

I don't see McCall signing up any pint-size point guards. He's all about length in his Defenders.
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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by TheOFFSeason » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:25 am

TruBluMaroon wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:40 am
TheOFFSeason wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:43 pm
Old Cage wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:03 pm A guy with zero days of college coaching and/or administrative experience is going to be Associate Head Coach?

What could possibly go wrong? :?
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TB has built 4 programs and developed many kids...he’s 48 so not a kid...I think your worried for the wrong reason
Correct, you should be woried about certain players having an allegiance to an assistant coach and not the head coach......and an assistant coach who will be looking out for his guys.....which will cause a division within the team and create internal problems.
You’re going out of your way to create negative scenarios

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by TruBluMaroon » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:43 am

TheOFFSeason wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:25 am
TruBluMaroon wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:40 am
TheOFFSeason wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:43 pm

Correct, you should be woried about certain players having an allegiance to an assistant coach and not the head coach......and an assistant coach who will be looking out for his guys.....which will cause a division within the team and create internal problems.
You’re going out of your way to create negative scenarios

These are real scenarios that happen all the time. Experience shows they happen and experience shows they are bad. Are you seriously trying to say because TB isn’t aware of it, it won’t happen? There are a lot of red flags in this, if you want to look.

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by Jackson96 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:52 am

TruBluMaroon wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:43 am
TheOFFSeason wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:25 am
TruBluMaroon wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:40 am

You’re going out of your way to create negative scenarios

These are real scenarios that happen all the time. Experience shows they happen and experience shows they are bad. Are you seriously trying to say because TB isn’t aware of it, it won’t happen? There are a lot of red flags in this, if you want to look.
We certainly know that you want to look. Also I think the quoting on this thread is messed up somehow
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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by TheOFFSeason » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:03 pm

TruBluMaroon wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:43 am
TheOFFSeason wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:25 am
TruBluMaroon wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:40 am

You’re going out of your way to create negative scenarios

These are real scenarios that happen all the time. Experience shows they happen and experience shows they are bad. Are you seriously trying to say because TB isn’t aware of it, it won’t happen? There are a lot of red flags in this, if you want to look.
What you are saying is you think that in all the years TB has coached and won much more than he lost he hasn’t learned how to coach a whole team so he might cause a divide because he is going to put his recruits ahead of the good of the team...having known TB for a while I am choosing to think that is not going to happen, I think he is going to be all in to win games over anything else.

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by UMassHoops » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:05 pm

These so called red flags are red... red herrings. Of course TB is going to have an affinity for his guys that he's coached, there would a problem if he didn't. That's part of the value he brings to the table in getting these guys into the program. But to then extrapolate that into internal divisions and favortism is just creating one of many possible outcomes out of thin air. It's just as likely that he extends his coaching acumen and efforts to the kids he didn't bring to the table and does a great job with everyone. You hire people because you expect the best out of them and them to grow in their positions, and I have to assume MM and Bamford have done their homework or the offer to TB would never be made.

We have enough problems, with out making up stuff that hasn't happened (but might!!!)

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by NilesGold » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:13 pm

TruBluMaroon wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:43 am
TheOFFSeason wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:25 am
TruBluMaroon wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:40 am

You’re going out of your way to create negative scenarios

These are real scenarios that happen all the time. Experience shows they happen and experience shows they are bad. Are you seriously trying to say because TB isn’t aware of it, it won’t happen? There are a lot of red flags in this, if you want to look.
I believe people are taking issue with the fact that you seem to think these negative scenarios are going to happen, instead of just suggesting they might happen.

The fact is that in a lot of cases players are more closely tied to the assistant who recruited them. There’s always the chance for locker room issues, but TB first and foremost is going to want UMass to succeed, and he’s going to push for the players who are most likely to make that happen, regardless of their relationship with TB.

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by Battle Ax » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:53 pm

This is not the first time a coach has hired a guy that has close ties to a AAU program or a prep program. Actually it’s rather common.

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by 69MG » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:15 pm

The bigger problem would be if we don't get Mitchell, Bergeron and Weeks. I'll take my chances on the rest.

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by Battle Ax » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:05 pm

69MG wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:15 pm The bigger problem would be if we don't get Mitchell, Bergeron and Weeks. I'll take my chances on the rest.
I agree

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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by uz2b-len » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:50 pm

TB wants to win games and tournaments. That's how he will advance his career. Playing favorites will not serve him.
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Re: KAEO: Tre Mitchell

Post by Battle Ax » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:02 am

If we don’t hear anything from Tre by Wednesday I’ll be worried

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