Game 14, 2016-17: St. Bonaventure (12/30)
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Re: Game 14, 2016-17: St. Bonaventure (12/30)
^^ I'm sorry but you are an idiot.. you saw what you wanted to see and not what actually happened..
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Re: Game 14, 2016-17: St. Bonaventure (12/30)
[quote="mlaconte459"]You would bench Gresham for a game?? He didn't even throw a punch.. go back to your safe space[/quote
he did. I saw it with my own eyes. Both guys were out of control punks.
he did. I saw it with my own eyes. Both guys were out of control punks.
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Once again not true.. you need to get a life.. calling a Umass player a punk because someone tried to punch him?? Have you seen any of the replays??? I won't weigh in on this anymore because you obviously have some agenda against Gresham and it's pretty damn sad.. if you think he's a punk for someone trying to hit him Umass is better off without your support
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HUH? well if you have a replay of game link post it. I could be wrong but looked like he threw a punch while he was being pushed back by either ref or one of our other players.mlaconte459 wrote:^^ I'm sorry but you are an idiot.. you saw what you wanted to see and not what actually happened..
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Re: Game 14, 2016-17: St. Bonaventure (12/30)
Gresham swung after he was punched. DK was ripped about it. My 12 year old daughter sitting next to me saw it, too. I said the guy for St. Bonnie's should be ejected for throwing a punch, and she immediately said the UMass guy did too. We were sitting eight rows from the court directly in front too the play. I wouldn't bench Gresham for it, but I don't condone it. I would have him running suicides in practice or some other punishment, because he should realize getting ejected hurt the team in that game. Fighting doesn't belong in hoops.
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Is there any evidence that either player is a 'punk'?stevemaz wrote:he did. I saw it with my own eyes. Both guys were out of control punks.
Or, could it be that two young men, both freshmen, got caught up in the emotion of the moment and lost their cool?
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Re: Game 14, 2016-17: St. Bonaventure (12/30)
First person accounts are often inaccurate for a variety of reasons. Watch the replay and gifs that are on Twitter. Gresham's arm swung around while being restrained but in no way was it a swing at anyone.
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I have watched the replays as well. He swung as he was being pulled away making it look like he was just flailing. He was throwing a punch that was nowhere near hitting someone, because he was being dragged away. That was what the referees determined. You are trying to infer intent. And, you believe he did not intend to hit anyone. The referees viewed it as he would've landed the swipe/punch if he wasn't restrained, I assume. His arm was swinging under his control, he wasn't being tossed around like a rag doll.NilesGold wrote:First person accounts are often inaccurate for a variety of reasons. Watch the replay and gifs that are on Twitter. Gresham's arm swung around while being restrained but in no way was it a swing at anyone.
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^ His right arm is swinging around because he's trying to go after the Bona player while being restrained on his left side. But it is not a swing AT anyone. By the letter of the rules I don't know if that's grounds for ejection.
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It is still a swing directed at the Bona player which is inappropriate. Will not look as bad because he was being pulled away. You have to try to stay restrained.
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Yes, they got into a silly altercation for no reason and acted like a punk would. I have done the same thing a few times in my life and certainly would never be offended if someone called me out on it. In addition, only commenting on their actions at that moment in time.LS71 wrote:Is there any evidence that either player is a 'punk'?stevemaz wrote:he did. I saw it with my own eyes. Both guys were out of control punks.
Or, could it be that two young men, both freshmen, got caught up in the emotion of the moment and lost their cool?
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Niles, you often are on the money in your analysis, but you are being ridiculous. It is obvious he would have hit the bonnie player if he could. I would bench him for one game (never said suspend) and make it an example for the team. Under no circumstances to we get into these dumb altercations. obviously, there had to be some trash talking and bumping between the two before this play for it to blow up like it did.NilesGold wrote:^ His right arm is swinging around because he's trying to go after the Bona player while being restrained on his left side. But it is not a swing AT anyone. By the letter of the rules I don't know if that's grounds for ejection.
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The arm swing didn't appear to be an attempt to strike. Gresham was definitely trying to go after the Bona player, but that swing was not an attempted strike. His arm simply flailed around trying to get to the Bona player while being restrained.mdogt12 wrote:It is still a swing directed at the Bona player which is inappropriate.
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I wasn't offended. I just want to be clear before assigning labels to people. Calling someone a punk and saying someone acted like a punk are two completely different things IMO.stevemaz wrote:Yes, they got into a silly altercation for no reason and acted like a punk would. I have done the same thing a few times in my life and certainly would never be offended if someone called me out on it. In addition, only commenting on their actions at that moment in time.LS71 wrote:Is there any evidence that either player is a 'punk'?stevemaz wrote:he did. I saw it with my own eyes. Both guys were out of control punks.
Or, could it be that two young men, both freshmen, got caught up in the emotion of the moment and lost their cool?
I was at the game too. Their actions at that moment in time looked to me like two guys getting caught up in the emotion of the moment and losing their cool.
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Re: Game 14, 2016-17: St. Bonaventure (12/30)
Can we leave it at this: It's a matter of interpretation and the A10 will make the decision.
My personal feeling is that DK will not sit Brison for a game. Does Hines' ankle injury play into it, maybe, but I don't think he would have anyway. We'll know in a few days.
My personal feeling is that DK will not sit Brison for a game. Does Hines' ankle injury play into it, maybe, but I don't think he would have anyway. We'll know in a few days.