A10 teams on the way down..Umass going up?

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A10 teams on the way down..Umass going up?

Post by frank da tank » Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:39 pm

Some interesting developments happening.....St Joes' loses their All-American backcourt including all league defender Barley....., Dayton lost their Srs.....Richmond as well......Xavier loses their Big 3...Sato Chalmers and Myles...and NOW they even lose their coach Matta and his assistants....Sean Miller becomes Head coach...is he ready?? John groce and alan major leave with Matta...so XU will be down.....

Lasalle loses Neal and another "alledged rapist"....Temple lost Hawkins.....St Bonaventure lost their program changer in Mario Boggans transfer from Florida(drugs).....

So with all these negatives with all these teams....Umass looks like they are on the way up......Everyone back from last yr team....plus all New comer Lawrence Carrier is here....plus the other bigs in lamoureux and Deli......Freeman-Maxwell-Bowers-Lasme as soph's.....Chadwick.as well....

Only GW scares me........but Umass might be back fellas............

Can't wait until October............

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Post by UMass87 » Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:52 pm

It's not very uplifting to think of UMass' success depending on the decline of the conference.

Matta leaving is a bummer - he is a very good coach and his departure reinforces the A10's image as a stepping stone.

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Post by Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf » Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:59 pm

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Post by eldonabe » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:00 pm

Whahoo! Maybe they can upgrade to "mediocrity Status" this year!

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Post by kdogg8173 » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:04 pm

Good post. I never really thought about all the losses (or to umass fans, gains) that the A-10 has for the upcoming season. It looks like it will definitely be a down year, so it might be hard for any team to crack the top 25.

On a side note. I had no idea that boggans had enrolled at st. bonaventure. The one game he got some playing time at Florida i was at. This guy is a MOOSE. Splitting image of tyrone weeks, little more athletic. I think he was top 50 out of high school. That is a big loss for them.

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Post by Old Cage » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:44 pm

Bonnies offcourt news today:
St. Bonaventure seeks dismissal of former coach's lawsuit

By JOHN WAWROW
.c The Associated Press

BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) - St. Bonaventure University has asked a federal judge to dismiss former men's basketball coach Jan van Breda Kolff's $21.55 million wrongful dismissal lawsuit.

In the school's first legal response to the suit, lawyer Judy Hernandez argued van Breda Kolff had no basis for his claims, and noted that a clause in his contract allowed the school to dismiss him without cause.

In a 43-page document submitted to U.S. District Court in Buffalo last week, Hernandez also asked that the court consider imposing sanctions against van Breda Kolff's lawyer for filing a claim not supported by law.

Van Breda Kolff was fired in April 2003 following a school investigation after junior forward Jamil Terrell was ruled ineligible for failing to meet NCAA junior college transfer guidelines. Terrell earned a certificate in welding at a community college before transferring and playing for St. Bonaventure for most of the 2002-03 season.

The Atlantic 10 stripped the team of its conference victories and barred it from its league playoff tournament, moves that led to Bonnies players boycotting the final two games of their season.

Van Breda Kolff, an assistant with the NBA New Orleans Hornets last season, has argued that he was not aware of Terrell's status. He had three years left on his contract and owed about $1 million prior to his dismissal.

His lawsuit also includes claims of libel, invasion of privacy and injurious falsehood.

Last February, the NCAA cleared van Breda Kolff of committing any violations, but noted that he was one of at least five school officials who were aware of questions of Terrell's eligibility but failed to contact the A-10 or the NCAA.

University president Robert Wickenheiser resigned in March 2003, and accepted the blame for approving Terrell's transfer.

07/12/04 15:19 EDT

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Post by LS71 » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:44 pm

frank da tank wrote:Umass might be back fellas............
A better way to put it is that UMass might be backing in......

As 87 posted...
UMass87 wrote:It's not very uplifting to think of UMass' success depending on the decline of the conference.
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Post by TBird » Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:07 pm

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Post by Orange Julius » Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:32 pm

As I read da tank's post I thought the same thing - gee, it's good to know we'll be good because other teams got worse.

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Post by VoxPop » Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:47 pm

We'll be good because we have a good team and a program that has been rejuvenated and rebuilt. UMass will kick ass this season.

But that simple fact will not stop the negative ninnies from using this message board as a platform from which to take a dump on the University, the students, the program and the coaches.
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Post by Chemical Ali » Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:03 pm

VoxPop wrote:a program that has been rejuvenated and rebuilt.

But that simple fact will not stop the negative ninnies from using this message board as a platform from which to take a dump on the University, the students, the program and the coaches.
13-16, 11-18, and 10-19 is a mighty, mighty curious definition for "rejuvenated and rebuilt."

No, some of us won't dump on the university, the students, or the players, but we sure do see some major problems with a coaching staff which is repsonsible for 3 consective losing seasons and shitty attendance.

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Post by Wheeler » Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:55 pm

Attendence is a reflection of the support by the fans and students. So if the alumni and students don't go or support the porgram; some of the attendence problem is a result of poor alumni support not only for the bball program but also a reflection of poor alumni support for the university in general. Dayton has been one of the leading teams for attendence since joining the A10 and traditionally have supported their bball program by attending the games. What has Dayton ever won?

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Post by Mass Grad » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:03 pm

How true look at the football program and its attendance. It has gone down and down and down over the last 8 years. The have had winning seasons and have always been respectable. Where are the fans. Where is the Alumi. Crying in their beer because we are not 1A? Lacrosse attendance not much to speak of. Navy can draw 30,000 at their stadium. Md even more. Johns Hopkins with only 10,000 capacity fills it most of the time. They win too. Softball not much there either. Hockey appears to be a bright spot but no sell out yet and this is Hockey county. Baseball, a big crowd if there is 200. Nobody goes to watch these teams compete in anything on a regular basis.

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Post by UMass02 » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:08 pm

Mass Grad wrote: Hockey appears to be a bright spot but no sell out yet and this is Hockey county.
Hockey had one sellout this past season. Very impressive considering only 1,000 showed up per game four years ago.

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Post by UMass87 » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:19 pm

Wheeler wrote:... What has Dayton ever won?
On Selection Sunday:

2003-2004 24-8
2002-2003 24-5
2001-2002 20-10


so, during Steve Lappas' tenure Dayton generally has won in one season what takes Steve Lappas two seasons. Conversely, Steve Lappas loses in one season what takes Dayton two. So...in answer to your question: games.

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