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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Post by inthescoop » Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:02 pm

TheInsider wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:49 am when did I say worried. I didn't say that, I said they weren't alarmed and they had a more measured approach/response. I never said it wasn't serious. I just prefer the measured fact based response over hysteria. Fact is over the decades when these outbreaks happen we forget about them after they are gone and don't take any of the lessons learned. We should have had a contingency plan in place for this.
Worried, alarmed, whatever word you want to use.... you said you know several medical professionals who are not alarmed by coronavirus plain and simple. I don't know how I can take you seriously at this moment. :lol:

I work in the medical device industry, and I have not conversed with a single surgeon or any person in the industry that says we should not be alarmed by it.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Post by TheInsider » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:18 am

Maybe we have different definitions of alarmed. Bottom line is it has happened before and will happen again.. what's alarming is we've never prepared for pandemics

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Post by e_parade » Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:24 am

TheInsider wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:18 am Maybe we have different definitions of alarmed. Bottom line is it has happened before and will happen again.. what's alarming is we've never prepared for pandemics
Well our current president did tell the nation that everything was under control and that cases would soon be going down in this country, only to see the exact opposite happen very quickly.

Because of the polarized nation we have right now we also have less than half of republicans (sometimes as low as a 3rd) saying they're at all worried: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ho ... us-so-far/

That also has a chart showing republicans believe Trump has been handling this whole thing well to the tune of 80-90% approval ratings on it.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Post by TheInsider » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:15 am

Also shows a split on how H1N1 was handled. Your right, that's the climate now.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Post by e_parade » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:50 am

TheInsider wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:15 am Also shows a split on how H1N1 was handled. Your right, that's the climate now.
People prefer to think that what their side is saying is the truth, and take it over what experts in the field are saying. Because of that, it's unlikely we'll ever be as prepared as we need to be when a new pandemic comes around.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Post by MJatUM » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:18 am

The fact that our world is so hyper-politicized has made this entire situation completely disgusting. Mis-information from BOTH sides designed to paint left or right as incompetent. Instead of people just issuing the fucking facts we have to cipher through bullshit. Drain the whole fucking swamp.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Post by inthescoop » Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:52 pm

e_parade wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:50 am
TheInsider wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:15 am Also shows a split on how H1N1 was handled. Your right, that's the climate now.
People prefer to think that what their side is saying is the truth, and take it over what experts in the field are saying. Because of that, it's unlikely we'll ever be as prepared as we need to be when a new pandemic comes around.
Hard to argue with that statement. People in this country don't like to read things from themselves and find the real facts, they believe in simply what they hear from the media and politicians.
TheInsider wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:15 am Also shows a split on how H1N1 was handled. Your right, that's the climate now.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Post by TheInsider » Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:18 pm

"You're*"
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Post by harbo » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:19 pm

MJatUM wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:18 am The fact that our world is so hyper-politicized has made this entire situation completely disgusting. Mis-information from BOTH sides designed to paint left or right as incompetent. Instead of people just issuing the fucking facts we have to cipher through bullshit. Drain the whole fucking swamp.
Thank you.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Post by harbo » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:28 pm

TheInsider wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:18 pm "You're*"
Classic sign of a douchbag
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We used to be allowed to laugh here once in a while

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Post by DEM » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:09 pm

Getting back to policy here, no matter who is president, the response of our country to these sorts of pandemics is likely to be sub-par because our healthcare system is not optimally equipped for this. As long as we have so many uninsured and underinsured, people who are sick or at risk will often be reluctant to seek necessary care, and that poses a risk to everyone at a population level when you are talking about something contagious. This is yet another reason we need to seriously consider medicare-for-all. And before anybody talks about how we can't afford to do what other countries do, keep in mind that 1.5 trillion dollars basically fell out of the sky yesterday for Wall Street (and that's not including the enormous amounts of money we've spent on wars and tax cuts for the rich in the recent past). The reasons for the opposition have nothing to do with what our nation can or can't afford. In fact, when you consider the downsides of our current system, a better question might be, can we afford not to do medicare-for-all?

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Post by e_parade » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:28 pm

Andrew Yang's policies are also about to get a lot more support. So many people across all kinds of industries are about to have at the very best reduced wages for a while. I imagine a change to the "everyone at age 18 gets $1000/mo" to something like granting the power to do so when a state of emergency is declared.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Post by inthescoop » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:05 pm

harbo wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:28 pm
TheInsider wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:18 pm "You're*"
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We used to be allowed to laugh here once in a while
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Post by inthescoop » Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:15 pm

Has there been a more damaging ad in recent years?

https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/124 ... 53699?s=21

..and I’ve never been a big Biden guy.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election

Post by econalum » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:12 am

IMO, no. The Jerk in charge makes my head hurt.

I only trust Fauci. And among politicians, Cuomo has been impressive. Charlie in Mass is waiting too long, letting individual towns take the lead.

For example, Acton MA has banned: massages, hair cuts, styling, tattoos, nail salons, and other close personal services delivered within a 6-foot radius that are not health-related.

But these are not statewide. Who is right, dunno. But as of 'now, Acton has no Cvid sufferers. Tomorrow may be different, but stronger limits may lead to shorter limits in the long term.
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