🗣 UMass to the MAC: Dedicated Thread

[Quinn]

Let's start a thread dedicated to the topic of UMass joining a conference they CAN get an invitation to for all-sports if a parter like Delaware upgrades.

All in one place. UMass to the MAC.

Go!

Why are you against it when we can't even get into CUSA (they invited 5 schools but not UMass)?

Why are you for it?

[Quinn]

Note. the MAC is not interested in UMass alone. We need help to even get a MAC all-sports invitation these days.

[ZooMass84]

Note. the MAC is not interested in UMass alone. We need help to even get a MAC all-sports invitation these days.

We screwed up royally not taking the all sports invite.

[eldonabe]

I just cannot get fired up for a conference full of Akron's or Directional Michigan schools....

i'd rather see them in the sun belt...

[InnervisionsUMASS]

We screwed up royally not taking the all sports invite.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

[minutefanjsf]

We screwed up royally not taking the all sports invite.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Yup. Kmo, Molnar, and Bell look even worse in the rear view mirror, too.

[InnervisionsUMASS]

We screwed up royally not taking the all sports invite.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Yup. Kmo, Molnar, and Bell look even worse in the rear view mirror, too.

KMO and Bell looked bad at the time (and yes, somehow even worse now). Molnar got a pass, partly due to ND, partly due to KMO, and partly due to the transition. Obviously terrible in hindsight.

Not moving to the MAC when the clause was triggered wasn't the wrong move, at that time. Of course, things have changed and going there then might have been good for the U.

[ZooMass84]

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Yup. Kmo, Molnar, and Bell look even worse in the rear view mirror, too.

KMO and Bell looked bad at the time (and yes, somehow even worse now). Molnar got a pass, partly due to ND, partly due to KMO, and partly due to the transition. Obviously terrible in hindsight.

Not moving to the MAC when the clause was triggered wasn't the wrong move, at that time. Of course, things have changed and going there then might have been good for the U.

KMO looked absolutely like a deer in the headlights.......won't even get into how clueless Bell was........Molnar actually had a little clue. Yes we were 1-11 & 1-11 but a few of those losses were competitive. Lost to Akron and W. Mich by 1 point.
Still think we can find a conference home. All the conf realignment will open something up hopefully.

[PreecherJenkins]

There was no one who thought ten years ago wow the mac for everything will be amazing. It is a flawed plan then and a flawed plan now.

Fine football gets a conference home, what does that mean for revenues? How many pay days can we have year

Let's look at this solely on a basketball front. Who is excited to have Ball State and directional Michigan in town for a Wednesday night game? No one. How expensive is it to get into Central Michigan or Muncie Indiana or whatever other out posts there are? The level of basketball outside of like three teams is a major major step down. Last time the league got multiple bids? 1998-99. How are we going to recruit? Does Frank have interst in being a coach in the 20th best league?

Bottom line UMass for 40 years has been too passive in terms of conference movement. Bamford has tried with his Campus Copy and Print Shop Flyers but that dude cannot close an open can. Bamford should be fired today for how we are STILL without a chair in this important game of musical chairs.

[ZooMass84]

There was no one who thought ten years ago wow the mac for everything will be amazing. It is a flawed plan then and a flawed plan now.

Fine football gets a conference home, what does that mean for revenues? How many pay days can we have year

Let's look at this solely on a basketball front. Who is excited to have Ball State and directional Michigan in town for a Wednesday night game? No one. How expensive is it to get into Central Michigan or Muncie Indiana or whatever other out posts there are? The level of basketball outside of like three teams is a major major step down. Last time the league got multiple bids? 1998-99. How are we going to recruit? Does Frank have interst in being a coach in the 20th best league?

Bottom line UMass for 40 years has been too passive in terms of conference movement. Bamford has tried with his Campus Copy and Print Shop Flyers but that dude cannot close an open can. Bamford should be fired today for how we are STILL without a chair in this important game of musical chairs.

It is a flawed plan then and a flawed plan now. I think you mean it was a flawed plan then......but I sort of agree with you but you have to flexible also. The current dynamic is that colleges are jumping all around to get into and out of conferences. You are also correct in that the MAC basketball sucks but so does the A-10 and the A-10 doesn't sponsor FBS football. We can't stay indy forever (maybe we can) but we miss out on conference revenue sharing and bowl tie-ins (if we could win a couple games )

[Quinn]

Note. the MAC is not interested in UMass alone. We need help to even get a MAC all-sports invitation these days.

And it’s really only Delaware that is an option in the east. The rest are UAC and MVFC schools in the Midwest. Missouri St. will be the next upgrade, but they are focused on the Sun Belt. In theory, they might take wheat they can get with a CUSA invitation.

The MAC however is focused on WKU and MTSU leaving CUSA to join the MAC.


This is the same CUSA they are trying to flee, that UMass couldn’t get in invitation for when they expanded by 5 with (3) FCS schools and (2) FBS independents.

[Quinn]

I just cannot get fired up for a conference full of Akron's or Directional Michigan schools....

i'd rather see them in the sun belt...

The Sunbelt is the second best G5 conference now. They have surpassed the AAC, however, we will have to see how the 6 NEW AAC additions perform.

But it’s a toss up generally:
Sun Belt/AAC/MWC
MAC
CUSA
Future UAC if they can win their eventual lawsuit to force an upgrade in total

[Quinn]

There was no one who thought ten years ago wow the mac for everything will be amazing. It is a flawed plan then and a flawed plan now.

Fine football gets a conference home, what does that mean for revenues? How many pay days can we have year

Let's look at this solely on a basketball front. Who is excited to have Ball State and directional Michigan in town for a Wednesday night game? No one. How expensive is it to get into Central Michigan or Muncie Indiana or whatever other out posts there are? The level of basketball outside of like three teams is a major major step down. Last time the league got multiple bids? 1998-99. How are we going to recruit? Does Frank have interst in being a coach in the 20th best league?

Bottom line UMass for 40 years has been too passive in terms of conference movement. Bamford has tried with his Campus Copy and Print Shop Flyers but that dude cannot close an open can. Bamford should be fired today for how we are STILL without a chair in this important game of musical chairs.

Those of us who understood that football was the future of college sports, knew. It was a given that joining the MAC meant a better chance of basketball tourney auto-bids. And a steady football conference to prove value and earn an upgrade, given the overall lackluster fan support for UMass outside of this forum.

[Quinn]

There was no one who thought ten years ago wow the mac for everything will be amazing. It is a flawed plan then and a flawed plan now.

Fine football gets a conference home, what does that mean for revenues? How many pay days can we have year

Let's look at this solely on a basketball front. Who is excited to have Ball State and directional Michigan in town for a Wednesday night game? No one. How expensive is it to get into Central Michigan or Muncie Indiana or whatever other out posts there are? The level of basketball outside of like three teams is a major major step down. Last time the league got multiple bids? 1998-99. How are we going to recruit? Does Frank have interst in being a coach in the 20th best league?

Bottom line UMass for 40 years has been too passive in terms of conference movement. Bamford has tried with his Campus Copy and Print Shop Flyers but that dude cannot close an open can. Bamford should be fired today for how we are STILL without a chair in this important game of musical chairs.

Those of us who understood that football was the future of college sports, knew. It was a given that joining the MAC meant a better chance of basketball tourney auto-bids. And a steady football conference to prove value and earn an upgrade, given the overall lackluster fan support for UMass outside of this forum.

For perspective, I fly up from Chile to attend a hockey game and football game each year. Of the 20 closest classmates I’ve known since 1993, only 1 has any remote interest in going to Homecoming, a weekend game, etc. Maybe those Gillette Stadium games got them to go, but a Boston to Amherst drive? Not a chance.



UMass needs a conference. A home. A place to prove value. We are going to lose NMSU and Liberty are annual games as they were invited/joined CUSA.

[Quinn]

Let's start a thread dedicated to the topic of UMass joining a conference they CAN get an invitation to for all-sports if a parter like Delaware upgrades.

All in one place. UMass to the MAC.

Go!

Why are you against it when we can't even get into CUSA (they invited 5 schools but not UMass)?

Why are you for it?

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