FIRE WALT BELL!

Ringing the Bell on a new era of UM Football.
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Re: FIRE WALT BELL!

Post by Camby4Life » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:17 pm

dennisdent wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:10 pm
Camby4Life wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:06 pm Fire this guy before it gets worse. I don’t care about his recruiting. You can’t score offensive points in one half of football when you play 4 games. This could be the worst college team of all time.
Forty years of watching UMass football and this and last season our the worst, by far that I have ever seen! Not even competitive at all after Whip showed that it could be done. Ten points on offense in four games.
Not just the worst Umass football team of all time, this could be the worst college football team of all time. It’s a shame they couldn’t play an entire season to see how bad it could really get.

Bell’s offense could have put up more points if they just ran a Hail Mary every play and hoped for a lucky catch or PI call. The slow developing run plays and play action just don’t work. The play calling sucks, the execution is worse. This is pop Warner type of coaching.

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Re: FIRE WALT BELL!

Post by dennisdent » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:25 pm

Camby4Life wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:17 pm
dennisdent wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:10 pm
Camby4Life wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:06 pm Fire this guy before it gets worse. I don’t care about his recruiting. You can’t score offensive points in one half of football when you play 4 games. This could be the worst college team of all time.
Forty years of watching UMass football and this and last season our the worst, by far that I have ever seen! Not even competitive at all after Whip showed that it could be done. Ten points on offense in four games.
Not just the worst Umass football team of all time, this could be the worst college football team of all time. It’s a shame they couldn’t play an entire season to see how bad it could really get.

Bell’s offense could have put up more points if they just ran a Hail Mary every play and hoped for a lucky catch or PI call. The slow developing run plays and play action just don’t work. The play calling sucks, the execution is worse. This is pop Warner type of coaching.
Totally agree! FCS North Alabama (no wins this season) was more competitive against LU this season then UMass was today. The play designs are also terrible. At least Whip could develop good plays to fit the talent on the field. This team would not have won a game this season if it had been fully played.

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Re: FIRE WALT BELL!

Post by Quann » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:09 pm

Our FCS teams from 96 to 2010 would destroy this year’s team. So depressing

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Re: FIRE WALT BELL!

Post by ZooMass84 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:29 pm

Jack wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:23 pm Dennis I understand the sentiment - but this thread should be removed.
This thread is beyond needed. See my UMass 247 posts after we lost to SIU last year.

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Re: FIRE WALT BELL!

Post by ZooMass84 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:32 pm

He won't be fired this year (unfortunately) but IF we start next season 0-8, AND lose to URI, THEN he must be fired after the URI game.

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Re: FIRE WALT BELL!

Post by ZooMass84 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:40 pm

Upstate10 wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:28 pm
dennisdent wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:26 pm You didn't answer my question: Where is he recruiting better??? His coaching sucks.
You evidently have access to the Internet go look at our classes on 247. Not hard to do
Just think for a moment: 1-11 last year (the worst team in college football history), 0-4 this year (only competitive game was FAU and the defense played their hearts out). We suck as much this year as last. Funny how 40 points seems to be our usual deficit. BEING AN FBS HC IS BEYOND WALT BELL. It is "above his paygrade" and IQ. Face it, we fucked up again with another HC hire.

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Re: FIRE WALT BELL!

Post by Jack » Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:58 pm

Totally irrelevant & moronic discussion since Bell is not going to be fired.

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Re: FIRE WALT BELL!

Post by dennisdent » Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:16 pm

Jack wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:58 pm Totally irrelevant & moronic discussion since Bell is not going to be fired.
So Jack, tell us how you really feel. :lol:

So he has tenure at the University, I think that is a first for a football coach. Didn't know he has lifetime contract Jack, now I'm really pissed. :P

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Re: FIRE WALT BELL!

Post by Jack » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:00 am

Good Morning DD - Coach Bell has a 5 yr contract and he won't be fired after 2 seasons one of which was a freaking pandemic season simply bc the team hasn't played up to your standards. That would be insane on multiple levels. He's doing a complete overhaul of the program with probably 55+ Fr/RSF/Soph/RSSoph. Therefore this entire thread is completely irrelevant and moronic. :D

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Re: FIRE WALT BELL!

Post by dennisdent » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:39 am

Jack wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:00 am Good Morning DD - Coach Bell has a 5 yr contract and he won't be fired after 2 seasons one of which was a freaking pandemic season simply bc the team hasn't played up to your standards. That would be insane on multiple levels. He's doing a complete overhaul of the program with probably 55+ Fr/RSF/Soph/RSSoph.l Therefore this entire thread is completely irrelevant and moronic. :D
Afternoon Chancellor/President Jack. CM also had a five year contract and we know how that ended...As long as Mike allows it, this thread will stay RELEVANT and IRONIC. You are were more then welcome to NOT post here.

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Re: FIRE WALT BELL!

Post by Jack » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:00 pm

There is nothing that is the least bit relevant or intelligent about this thread. I will continue to post here just to point how completely moronic this thread is in every possible way. You don't seem to have the slightest clue what you're talking about. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: FIRE WALT BELL!

Post by McKinney » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:23 pm

dennisdent wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:39 am
Jack wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:00 am Good Morning DD - Coach Bell has a 5 yr contract and he won't be fired after 2 seasons one of which was a freaking pandemic season simply bc the team hasn't played up to your standards. That would be insane on multiple levels. He's doing a complete overhaul of the program with probably 55+ Fr/RSF/Soph/RSSoph.l Therefore this entire thread is completely irrelevant and moronic. :D
Afternoon Chancellor/President Jack. CM also had a five year contract and we know how that ended...As long as Mike allows it, this thread will stay RELEVANT and IRONIC. You are were more then welcome to NOT post here.
Molnar's buyout was paid for by donors. So someone or a group of someones will need to pool $1.5M to buyout Bell.

It's hard to believe the media and general public would see that kind of expenditure in a positive light. The rest of the athletic department, university, and state are struggling in this pandemic and the financial aftermath that follows. The coaching search and securing a competitive compensation package from a budget-strained admin would be no small tasks at this point either.

As bad as UMass football is, it's been 2* years and I just don't think it's that high on anyone's priorities. Nor is it necessarily the best option even if the buyout was fully funded. (coach turnover leads to higher player turnover... and UMass is already deeply short on scholarship players)
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Re: FIRE WALT BELL!

Post by dennisdent » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:25 pm

Jack wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:00 pm There is nothing that is the least bit relevant or intelligent about this thread. I will continue to post here just to point how completely moronic this thread is in every possible way. You don't seem to have the slightest clue what you're talking about. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Of course you will keep posting here and add nothing but name calling and being a jerk. Jack is the Trump of UMassHoops. :P

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Re: FIRE WALT BELL!

Post by dennisdent » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:40 pm

McKinney wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:23 pm
dennisdent wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:39 am
Jack wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:00 am Good Morning DD - Coach Bell has a 5 yr contract and he won't be fired after 2 seasons one of which was a freaking pandemic season simply bc the team hasn't played up to your standards. That would be insane on multiple levels. He's doing a complete overhaul of the program with probably 55+ Fr/RSF/Soph/RSSoph.l Therefore this entire thread is completely irrelevant and moronic. :D
Afternoon Chancellor/President Jack. CM also had a five year contract and we know how that ended...As long as Mike allows it, this thread will stay RELEVANT and IRONIC. You are were more then welcome to NOT post here.
Molnar's buyout was paid for by donors. So someone or a group of someones will need to pool $1.5M to buyout Bell.

It's hard to believe the media and general public would see that kind of expenditure in a positive light. The rest of the athletic department, university, and state are struggling in this pandemic and the financial aftermath that follows. The coaching search would be no small task at this point either.

As bad as UMass football is, it's been 2* years and I just don't think it's that high on anyone's priorities. Nor is it necessarily the best option even if the buyout was fully funded. (coach turnover leads to higher player turnover... and UMass is already deeply short on scholarship players)
Yes, McCutcheon said that it would be paid by outside sources but why was CM paid off by state funds in the end?

Right here it shows he was paid off from the state: http://a.massterlist.com/article/2015/0 ... te-payroll

Do I realistically think he will be fired this off-season--of course not. Bamford isn't McCutcheon and Bell isn't CM. He isn't ready for this job and it shows. After next season and the team is as bad as it has been, there will be reason to fire him early.

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Re: FIRE WALT BELL!

Post by Camby4Life » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:12 pm

What did Bell do as OC for 5 years and 3 different schools to become an offensive guru? His best offensive performance was the 2015 Arkansas St team. Maryland didn’t do much his two years there and the one year at FSU was a disaster to say the least. He had Power 5 recruits to work with at Maryland and FSU.

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