Head coaching options

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Re: Head coaching options

Post by tdmass » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:05 pm

"If things don't change fast, either starting to win or changing HC, we'll lose this recruiting season, and maybe the next as well. "


In fact this is the year to do it since we only have 2 low rated verbals and a host of offers that frankly aren't impressive at all so this is a good year to change!

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Re: Head coaching options

Post by econalum » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:56 pm

Interesting point.
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Re: Head coaching options

Post by Sheck » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:25 pm

minutefanjsf wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:08 am
Sheck wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:32 am
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Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:22 am
Detroit Lions TE Coach Al Golden, former Temple, Miami Fla HC.
Golden would be a good option too. Might have been in over his head at Miami but he is a proven program builder and that's what we need. The situation he inherited at Temple is not unlike ours. I'm squeamish about giving the reins to someone who has no HC experience at the FBS level. If this next hire doesn't work out we're looking at a whole decade of futility at the FBS level.
Might be squeamish, but Neal Brown’s first HC job seems to have worked out well. And, PJ Fleck did pretty well in his first gig at western Michigan.
Certainly Harasymiak should be considered and I wouldn't be disappointed if he ended up being the guy. I'd definitely prefer him over a coordinator at an FBS program who has never been a head coach.
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Golden would be an incredible hire - my thought on that is, does an experienced, veteran coach want to walk into such a headache? I bet he sure is comfortable being an NFL TE coach.
Actually he was "promoted" to linebackers coach under Patricia but given the Lions start there may be some coaching changes made at the end of the season anyhow. Either way it's an opportunity to be a head coach at the FBS level again. Also the fact that Whipple was given 5 years should hopefully be a selling point for the next head coach that he will be given ample time to turn around the program.
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Re: Head coaching options

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Re: Head coaching options

Post by Berkman » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:27 am

I would think that if/when the AD is going to replace whip he certainly don't need any help/advice from anyone on this board.

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Re: Head coaching options

Post by dennisdent » Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:29 am

Wish we had a coach like that....

Pretty sad attendance. I remember the days when that stadium was pretty full for games against teams like Yale.

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Re: Head coaching options

Post by UMassNet15 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:48 pm

For what it's worth...
Dream Hire: Les Miles, Jim McElwain Acceptable Hire: Joe Harasymiak, Danny Rocco Palatable Hire: A OC/DC with no HC experience but is from a respected school/conference. But that's just at first thought.
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Re: Head coaching options

Post by econalum » Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:38 pm

College football as an in-person spectator sport is in decline, even in Power 5. When we think about even 10 years ago, the number of games available on all screens simply dilutes the audience, especially as internet often delivers very crisp HD level pix.
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Re: Head coaching options

Post by Old Cage » Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:29 pm

^ There were a surprising number of empty seats for Tennessee at Georgia yesterday. Looks like UMass fans need not pay up for our game there.
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Re: Head coaching options

Post by MJatUM » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:03 am

econalum wrote:
Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:38 pm
College football as an in-person spectator sport is in decline, even in Power 5. When we think about even 10 years ago, the number of games available on all screens simply dilutes the audience, especially as internet often delivers very crisp HD level pix.
Not sure what this has to do with the Head Coaching options. Unless you were replying to an eleven day old post a couple above yours.

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Re: Head coaching options

Post by Old Cage » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:48 pm

There is a feature story in SI this week about Neal Brown and his big win over Nebraska. :)
"Jack didn’t have any envy in him," Calipari said. "He was the greatest coach to ever coach here."

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Re: Head coaching options

Post by McKinney » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:06 pm

^ Woulda, shoulda, coulda. Twice.
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Re: Head coaching options

Post by Berkman » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:24 pm

If we would have hired him earlier he would be gone by now with the salary he is making now.

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Re: Head coaching options

Post by minutefanjsf » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:06 pm

Berkman wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:24 pm
If we would have hired him earlier he would be gone by now with the salary he is making now.
Disagree. If he started here and won, we would be paying him more and have an expanded stadium, or at least a plan at worst. If he was here and not winning he would still be here, like Whipple.

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Re: Head coaching options

Post by McKinney » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:04 pm

minutefanjsf wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:06 pm
Berkman wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:24 pm
If we would have hired him earlier he would be gone by now with the salary he is making now.
Disagree. If he started here and won, we would be paying him more and have an expanded stadium, or at least a plan at worst. If he was here and not winning he would still be here, like Whipple.
Or 3 sold out games at McGuirk and 3 25k+ games at Gillette. Something like that.

IMO Gillette could have been used like we used the DCU and MassMutual center in the 90s. And like Gillette, those only make sense to leave campus for if we're winning.
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