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Re: State of the Progam

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:51 pm
by minutefanjsf
78 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:37 pm
minutefanjsf wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:17 pm
78 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:00 pm
So if the transfer rumors are true, the only running backs on the team next year will be those who are included in this year's recruiting class. I guess we have to include Roberson, a converted wide receiver and Santiago, a converted linebacker, but I would prefer real running backs. It's easy to see this team winning one game max again next year.
Is Torres gone? Also there were 3 freshmen RBs that were decent size, (all from instate, PWO, maybe?) not sure if they can run....or pass protect...I don’t think any of them got in a game as true freshmen.
I guess that's my point. None of these guys played. Not sure if any of them are scholarship players or if they are good and there are expectations for them. My point stands that the only two running backs who played and who will be returning are a converted wide receiver and a converted running back. Doesn't give me much confidence.
Torres got some meaningful carries and did well. My guess is we are looking for a JUCO or grad transfer RB.

Re: State of the Progam

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:31 pm
by econalum
Whatever the students' reasons for xfer, given the already low roster numbers, it is a bad look for UMass and. hard to recruit against. :?

Re: State of the Progam

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:10 pm
by minutefanjsf
econalum wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:31 pm
Whatever the students' reasons for xfer, given the already low roster numbers, it is a bad look for UMass and. hard to recruit against. :?
Kids all over the country are transferring and new coaches are the main reason for large numbers of transfers. Rules are the same for all teams. CC for example had ten guys enter the portal...

Re: State of the Progam

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:23 pm
by McKinney
minutefanjsf wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:10 pm
econalum wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:31 pm
Whatever the students' reasons for xfer, given the already low roster numbers, it is a bad look for UMass and. hard to recruit against. :?
Kids all over the country are transferring and new coaches are the main reason for large numbers of transfers. Rules are the same for all teams. CC for example had ten guys enter the portal...
Arkansas currently leads the country for most kids in the transfer portal at 31 (per 247sports). :shock: Huge aftermath from Chad Morris?
https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/ ... ferPortal/

Maybe my biggest surprise was SMU. They're having their best season in 35 years. First AP ranking and first 10 win season since their death penalty in 1987. And yet they currently have the 2nd most players in the transfer portal (30).

Other notables: #12 Penn State is 4th in the portal with 23 players. #17 Michigan is 10th in the portal with 20 players.

Now it may get worse, but despite how bad it may seem, UMass currently has the 81st most players in the transfer portal (right on the median).

The NCAA needs to do something about the 25 player limit in accordance with the increased volume of transfers.

Re: State of the Progam

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:03 pm
by dennisdent
https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... m-10-title

Have to say that I agree that if UMass played Akron again the Zips would win. Bell would play Brito and we all know how that would end up. This program was coached so bad that they messed up being the worst program by suspending West and Brito being hurt, leading to the Curtis/Fallon show. :oops:

Re: State of the Progam

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:45 pm
by Berkman
With the NCAA new policy to allow players to transfer after 4 games they need to allow the teams to replace scholarship that leave with a replacement scholarship player. If It means that a school looses say 7 scholarship players they should be allowed to offer scholarships to 7 more players in addition to the 25 they are limited to now. Some teams may never be able to get back up to the 85 scholarship player they are allowed to have.

Re: State of the Progam

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:42 pm
by dennisdent
Here are the assistant coaches salaries: https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salari ... /assistant

$175k for the co-defensive coordinator, what a waste of money!

Re: State of the Progam

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:38 pm
by Steve81
dennisdent wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:42 pm
Here are the assistant coaches salaries: https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salari ... /assistant

$175k for the co-defensive coordinator, what a waste of money!
Wow, we had someone in the top 700.
Click on any Massachusetts and show all the salaries and goes back to 2012 or so.

Re: State of the Progam

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:54 pm
by dennisdent
Steve81 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:38 pm
dennisdent wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:42 pm
Here are the assistant coaches salaries: https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salari ... /assistant

$175k for the co-defensive coordinator, what a waste of money!
Wow, we had someone in the top 700.
Click on any Massachusetts and show all the salaries and goes back to 2012 or so.
Which is ahead of a lot of coaches from P5 teams! Only 25k more than the Massachusetts governor... :roll:

Re: State of the Progam

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:02 pm
by Steve81
dennisdent wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:54 pm
Steve81 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:38 pm
dennisdent wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:42 pm
Here are the assistant coaches salaries: https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salari ... /assistant

$175k for the co-defensive coordinator, what a waste of money!
Wow, we had someone in the top 700.
Click on any Massachusetts and show all the salaries and goes back to 2012 or so.
Which is ahead of a lot of coaches from P5 teams! Only 25k more than the Massachusetts governor... :roll:
How many of those P5 assistants are head or co defensive or offensive assistants, not much. You are too close to the beltway. Tell me that it's their salaries where they make their real money. They all have the power of their office. What happens to those guys/gals campaign war chest when they are done or in congress where they made insider trading legal for themselves.

Don't give me the crap about what a public office people make compare to coaches make. Like comparing CEO, CIO etc to coaches.(Apples and oranges, the don't compare.)

You did notice Pinkham got 220k and more some years.

Re: State of the Progam

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:08 pm
by Berkman
Probably don't belong here but the coach at App. St left after 1 year to go to Missouri for 4 MIL.

Re: State of the Progam

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:28 pm
by 78
This article nails the current state of the program -
https://commonwealthmagazine.org/educat ... ig-losses/

Re: State of the Progam

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:28 am
by photoman
78 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:28 pm
This article nails the current state of the program -
https://commonwealthmagazine.org/educat ... ig-losses/
"For instance, Bamford says, Auburn University, which recently defeated perennial powerhouse Alabama to knock them out of playoff contention, will pay UMass $1.9 million next year to come to Alabama to play.

“That alone is obviously good publicity for us, a good revenue stream to invest into the program,” he says."

Getting trounced 68-3 by Auburn may get publicity, but certainly NOT "good publicity".

Re: State of the Progam

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:59 am
by InnervisionsUMASS
^

I disagree.

Re: State of the Progam

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:05 pm
by harbo
I'll disagree also. Games like these may get a real good player to decide to come here and start from day one instead of potentially being down the depth chart at Enormous State University. I believe Andy Isabella got drafted higher and is making a lot more money in large part because of his game at Georgia.