I think the separation between Ohio State and Alabama is greater than that of Oklahoma and Georgia. Ohio State were conference champions but they also had 2 ugly losses. I think when the rubber hit the road the committee thought that Alabama was a better team than Ohio State, and I can't say I disagree. Plus OSU got in in 2014 and 2016 when there were plenty of data points that would suggest that they shouldn't have. So I don't feel bad for them or their fans. As a neutral observer I'm really looking forward to the semifinal match ups. It's anyone's game this year, where in years past you couldn't say that. 2014 FSU was flawed, 2015 MSU was flawed, last year Washington had no shot to beat 'Bama. Having Bama in over OSU spares us the chance that they get their doors blown off 31-0 to Clemson just like they did last year.Quann wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:29 amYou can say the same thing about Alabama getting the 4 seed and Ohio State missing out. Mjatum nailed it with his post.natwam2547 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:22 am ^ Every year is different but the problem with 6 is that the difference between #2 Oklahoma and #3 Georgia this year is so so small. How in the world could you decide that Oklahoma is THAT much more deserving than Georgia to get that bye? Wouldn't be fair to Georgia (or whoever finished 3rd) to have to play Wisconsin or USC or whoever finished 6th while Oklahoma was at home.
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I agree that Bama is probably the better team but they are being rewarded for scheduling an absolute joke of an out of conference schedule. One of OSU's losses was against the #2 team who they had the balls to schedule - It basically came down to OSU lost to Iowa so they aren't in.
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I get where you are coming from Natwam. I just feel like going to 8 waters down the regular season and college football's current set up allows for it to have the best regular season in all of sports (IMHO). FCS going to 24 teams is absurd. Why even bother with a full regular season if the top fifth of all teams (124 total in FCS in 2017) get in?
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Let's not forget that Alabama opened the season against Florida State when they were supposed to be the #2 team. Who knew FSU was going to be that bad after their QB went down. Bama schedules OOC cupcakes because the SEC West has historically been much tougher than the East, but that wasn't the case this year with the decline of teams like LSU, Ole Miss and A&M. Again, not Alabama's fault. As I have said, I would rather have seen Ohio State selected, but I can understand why the committee did what they did.
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Top 5th, wow college basketball must suck! I can't believe anyone watches a game at all when 64 of the 350 teams get in. Don't get me started on the NFL, absolute trash in terms of ratings. You'd have to pay people to go to games or even watch it on TV. Who wants to watch that garbage when more than a third of the teams get into the playoffs.Quann wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:06 pm I get where you are coming from Natwam. I just feel like going to 8 waters down the regular season and college football's current set up allows for it to have the best regular season in all of sports (IMHO). FCS going to 24 teams is absurd. Why even bother with a full regular season if the top fifth of all teams (124 total in FCS in 2017) get in?
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Alabama (reasonably) can't control its strength of schedule just like the other 129 teams can't control their strength of schedule. You (within reason) can't know the exact performance of your opponents going into the season.DrG wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:13 pm Let's not forget that Alabama opened the season against Florida State when they were supposed to be the #2 team. Who knew FSU was going to be that bad after their QB went down. Bama schedules OOC cupcakes because the SEC West has historically been much tougher than the East, but that wasn't the case this year with the decline of teams like LSU, Ole Miss and A&M. Again, not Alabama's fault. As I have said, I would rather have seen Ohio State selected, but I can understand why the committee did what they did.
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^^^^
Outside of my rooting interest for UMass of course, I find the college basketball regular season kind of boring compared to CFB because there are so many teams that make the postseason tourney. Thank you for making my point
Outside of my rooting interest for UMass of course, I find the college basketball regular season kind of boring compared to CFB because there are so many teams that make the postseason tourney. Thank you for making my point
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I'm an odd duck when it comes to college sports though. If it was up to me and Drumpf named me college sports czar for a day, I'd eliminate the conference championships in both football and basketball and go straight from the regular season to the FBS playoffs and NCAA tourney, respectively. This would really intensify the regular seaon in both sports. 6 teams in FBS get in and 64 teams (no play in games) for basketball. I know it's a dream that will never happen because these sports make way too much money off of their conference championships.
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I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
I agree, I'd get rid of the conference championships too. It's pretty meaningless in my book. At least in football the oldest started like 20 some odd years ago and a few of them are only maybe 5 years old, so I don't even see it as a loss of tradition or anything.Quann wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:38 pm I'm an odd duck when it comes to college sports though. If it was up to me and Drumpf named me college sports czar for a day, I'd eliminate the conference championships in both football and basketball and go straight from the regular season to the FBS playoffs and NCAA tourney, respectively. This would really intensify the regular seaon in both sports. 6 teams in FBS get in and 64 teams (no play in games) for basketball. I know it's a dream that will never happen because these sports make way too much money off of their conference championships.
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There's no reason the committee couldn't pick the four best teams at the end of the regular season, but here's the overriding factor: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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looking at all bowls I saw that no 5-7 teams were chosen, in fact three eligible teams (Buffalo, W Mich and UTSA) didn't get bid. I suppose UMass would not have gotten a bid at 6-6
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That's another thing that makes the system so ridiculous. You set a standard of 6 wins to be bowl eligible, you win 6 games, yet you still might not get into a bowl. *facepalm*
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In basketball, it's brutal. You can have a sub .500 team catch fire in March and win the conference tourney and get the auto-bid. I hate that.McKinney wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:58 pmI guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
I agree, I'd get rid of the conference championships too. It's pretty meaningless in my book. At least in football the oldest started like 20 some odd years ago and a few of them are only maybe 5 years old, so I don't even see it as a loss of tradition or anything.Quann wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:38 pm I'm an odd duck when it comes to college sports though. If it was up to me and Drumpf named me college sports czar for a day, I'd eliminate the conference championships in both football and basketball and go straight from the regular season to the FBS playoffs and NCAA tourney, respectively. This would really intensify the regular seaon in both sports. 6 teams in FBS get in and 64 teams (no play in games) for basketball. I know it's a dream that will never happen because these sports make way too much money off of their conference championships.
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Very true and very annoying, unless it's UMass!Quann wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:15 pmIn basketball, it's brutal. You can have a sub .500 team catch fire in March and win the conference tourney and get the auto-bid. I hate that.McKinney wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:58 pmI guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
I agree, I'd get rid of the conference championships too. It's pretty meaningless in my book. At least in football the oldest started like 20 some odd years ago and a few of them are only maybe 5 years old, so I don't even see it as a loss of tradition or anything.Quann wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:38 pm I'm an odd duck when it comes to college sports though. If it was up to me and Drumpf named me college sports czar for a day, I'd eliminate the conference championships in both football and basketball and go straight from the regular season to the FBS playoffs and NCAA tourney, respectively. This would really intensify the regular seaon in both sports. 6 teams in FBS get in and 64 teams (no play in games) for basketball. I know it's a dream that will never happen because these sports make way too much money off of their conference championships.
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