Game 10, 2013: Akron

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Post by njumass08 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:51 pm

You know me, I personally think in all sports the players have most of the responsibilities to perform. I'm not a huge coaching fan in general. It's mostly on the players in my book. In all sports.

I've gone over that before in the basketball section, so I definitely don't need to do it again here for football.

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Post by UMass1991 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:59 am

Since it was mentioned in this thread and elsewhere, one comment that has been made from a few experts and want to be experts after the Pats loss to the Panthers monday night was the play calling and the schemes the Pats used at times... the moral of the story for all of you CM bashers... as frustrating as it has been this season, this kind of stuff also happens in the Pros!

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Post by SJGMoney » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:49 am

UMass2FBS wrote:^
SG$, I am right there with you. The coaches do not make those throws/decisions. I understand that these are not professional athletes and so it is tough to "pick" on them. However, they are all adults and most of them are going to school for free and should be fair game to some criticism.

As much as he was covered, Sharpe was the only receiver out there who was getting anywhere near open, and it has been that way the entire season. The other WR's make 1 cut and if they are not open then they simply give up on the play. I almost pulled my hair out on the play where AJ had to scramble on 3rd down after 1 of the 3 turnovers. Every receiver on the right side of the field (the side he scrabled to) completely stood still!!!!

Yes, the coaches need to get on these players for this kind of behavior, and maybe need to put other players in the game in order to send a message but to blame it on the famous "play calling" line is complete BS.
You're dead right about our receivers and their lack of "knack". If they are initially covered they seem incapable of adjusting to find the open spot. That is on the coaches, either they haven't been taught well enough or the wrong guys are on the field.

I too was going crazy watching the play you referred to above where AJ scrambled. Watch the replay and you'll go even more nuts: there was no reason for AJ to scramble out of the pocket, they had a 3 man rush and he had a solid pocket to stand in and make a throw. He was seeing/feeling ghosts on Saturday, have to think the injuries have got him skittish.
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Post by jdawg 43 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:36 pm

njumass08 wrote:You know me, I personally think in all sports the players have most of the responsibilities to perform. I'm not a huge coaching fan in general. It's mostly on the players in my book. In all sports.

I've gone over that before in the basketball section, so I definitely don't need to do it again here for football.
Why do coaches get paid hundreds of thousand of dollars then? Seems like a waste of money, maybe the kids should just be fully responsible for every aspect of football, training, tactics, plays, everything.

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Post by njumass08 » Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:08 am

Jdawg, if we could make that a rule, I would be 100% behind that.

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Post by jdawg 43 » Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:54 pm

honestly I can appreciate that, since it's not that way though to ignore the importance of coaching/downplay the significance in terms of what happens in playcalling and stuff is what I disagree with. However, I do tend to side with it's the players out there and it's their responsibility, but I also acknowledge they can be let down by their coaching. I do lean more 65-35 on players rather than coaches.

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Post by jjmc85 » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:05 pm

You don't win in football without a coach. Maybe in basketball, where one player can singlehandedly dominate, but football needs coaching.

See 1996 Patriots vs 1997-1998 Patriots vs 1999-Present Patriots.

See also 1998-2003 UMass and 2004-2008 UMass vs 2009-2011 UMass.

Or BC before Spaz, BC during Spaz, BC after Spaz.

To suggest coaching isn't important in football is puzzling to say the least.
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Post by njumass08 » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:26 pm

I know, it's not an opinion that goes over well. I just like to think the players need to take most of the responsibility.

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Post by jjmc85 » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:36 pm

^It's not that it doesn't go over well. It just doesn't seem to be supported by the facts.
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Post by TheInsider » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:59 am

The players don't kick stupid long FG's or go for it from the 40 something in a tight game.

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Post by Puffton395 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:16 am

TheInsider wrote:The players don't kick stupid long FG's or go for it from the 40 something in a tight game.
Actually, the players do kick the field goals.
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Post by njumass08 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:11 pm

jjmc85 wrote:^It's not that it doesn't go over well. It just doesn't seem to be supported by the facts.
Absolutely no facts. Agreed. Just a personal feeling.

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Post by jjmc85 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:32 pm

^I can't argue with person feelings.

I am curious though. It seemed based on your post history you were 100% for Charley. If anyone ever posts anything negative about him, it seems like you defend him. Why bother defending him if you would apparently just as soon not have a coach?
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Post by njumass08 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:59 pm

I'd support whoever our coach was in this situation. Don't think anyone else could have done much better. It's all about the players.

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