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Canadian players

Post by Kustodial » Thu May 13, 2004 8:58 am

Anyone know if we have any interest in the other two Champlain guys...

http://www.draftcity.com/articles/0020.htm

We obviously have one coming in next year and didn't we hire a canadian coach?
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Post by krkess » Thu May 13, 2004 12:03 pm

There is high interest in Maurice Joseph.

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Post by DS Bruce Robertson » Thu May 13, 2004 12:25 pm

Was there some re-released verision of He Got Game that reduced the suckitude of it that I'm not aware of? Oh, that's right... Canadians...
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Post by Rudy » Thu May 13, 2004 12:25 pm

There's a 7'1" point guard on that list. What a freak.

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Post by Rudy » Thu May 13, 2004 12:27 pm

Correction. It just says guard. still a freak

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Post by R&G » Thu May 13, 2004 12:40 pm

Actually it states that his position is 7'1" and his height is "guard."

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Post by bdance » Thu May 13, 2004 12:48 pm

What about "myself" and "himself"? Apparently those two are the best players in Canada, so why the hell isn't Lappas all over them? Hoser.

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Post by Fishy » Fri May 14, 2004 12:16 am

Ivan Chiriaev, the 7-1 kid, thinks he's a point guard and when he declared for the NBA draft, he announced that the NBA needed him.

Apparently, he got embarassed in front of scouts at a high-school all-star game, (scouts started to leave in the first half), and hasn't impressed a soul in workouts, so he has pulled out of the draft - he's signed with an agent, so he's off to Europe and oblivion.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Conten ... 0081593064

Another kid listed there, Oliver Prince, was almost killed in a car accident in 2001 - spent weeks in a coma and needed seven month sof therapy to get back up and around. He's signed to play at Pepperdine next season.

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Post by Wheeler » Fri May 14, 2004 6:24 am

Anybody ever wonder why Lamoreaux's high school coach is sitting on the UMass bench?

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Post by FRDreams » Fri May 14, 2004 8:26 am

This is the problem with Canadian basketball players. The top high school player thinks he is gods gift to basketball and scouts would not even watch his whole game. I would not expect big minutes from Olivier right away because there is going to be a learning curve for him. Hoops up north is a different ball game than in the US. Go umass

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Post by Kosty » Fri May 14, 2004 8:35 am

Hey, don't tell that to Jamaal Magloire or Steve Nash. They don't know they aren't supposed to be good enough to play in the NBA.....in the All Star game. :roll:

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Post by Used to be VOR » Fri May 14, 2004 8:45 am

FRDreams wrote:This is the problem with Canadian basketball players. The top high school player thinks he is gods gift to basketball and scouts would not even watch his whole game. I would not expect big minutes from Olivier right away because there is going to be a learning curve for him. Hoops up north is a different ball game than in the US. Go umass
Yeah Steve Nash, Jamaal Magliore, and Rick Fox sucked in the NBA.

As do Denham Brown (UConn), Jermaine Bucknor (Richmond), Jimmy Balderson (BYU), Nate Doornekamp (BC), Sean Denison (Santa Clara), Levon Kendall (Pitt), Dwayne Jones (LaSalle)...and a slew of others.

A players country of national origin no more determines his ability to contribute immediately than does his state or hair color. It is a question of skill...and their are plenty of talented players in Canada that would be great "gets" for UMass.

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Post by DS Bruce Robertson » Fri May 14, 2004 10:05 am

Used to be VOR wrote:A players country of national origin no more determines his ability to contribute immediately than does his state or hair color. It is a question of skill...and their are plenty of talented players in Canada that would be great "gets" for UMass.
The level of competition and competence of instruction play a gigantic part in whether a player is ready to contribute when getting to Division 1. While being Canadian isn't in and of itself any particular handicap, playing in the Canadian system is a disadvantage when compared to players who come up through the American circuit. Certianly it's not one that can't be overcome, but it's significant enough that those few that do excel can be rattled off the top of our heads.
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Post by Used to be VOR » Fri May 14, 2004 10:08 am

The same arguments were made as little as 5 or 6 years ago regarding european players. And that has certainly been proven false in the NBA over the last few years.

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Post by DS Bruce Robertson » Fri May 14, 2004 10:31 am

Not to default into arguing with you VOR, but the same arguments were not being made about Eurpoean players and no legitimate arguments of that kind have been made about European players since 1992. There has been very little doubt that the apple that is the European continent was going to be able to produce world class players going back to the Barcelona Olympics and the same can not be said about the orange that is Canada. Their player development system isn't anywhere near as advanced as that in Europe. Canada's junior teams and professional leagues are only on the same planet as Europe's because of gravity.

Again, there are very talented basketball players trickling out of Canada, but very few will be impactful players immediately at the Division 1 level.
You know, say what you will about America, 13 bucks still gets you a hell of a lot of mice.

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