2020-21 Season

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Re: 2020-21 Season

Post by Juice Stand » Thu May 07, 2020 2:10 pm

Roadtrip wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:46 am So if the NCAA transfer waiver fails, is Garcia the starting PG? Does Buggs have enough to unseat Kolton as prime backup? Does Carl continue to start? Will Weeks return to form? Is Preston "the man" at the three? Who rises to the top at the four? Will Tre go for 20/20 some night? This should be enough to curtail all the Kelsey/Pitino yak. Or is it?

Note: yes I did watch Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman.
  • Garcia - yes
  • Buggs, not yet. He'll still be working his way back to 100% and into the lineup. I also really liked what I saw from Kolton last year. Great defense, steady ball handler and distributor, he will get more comfortable shooting as his hand heals.
  • Carl will continue to start. He's earned that to start the year, but it won't be guaranteed for the whole season. He'll have to play well to keep his starting spot by the time conference play rolls around because McCall knows he's in year 4 and we need some postseason (NIT or NCAA) appearances soon, especially with so much talent coming in
  • Weeks - yes, most definitely
  • Preston - I don't know. I'm not 100% sold on him yet. To me he looks more like a good 6th man, but maybe I'm wrong and the flashes he showed last season are real
  • no clue
  • 20/20? No, I don't think so. 20 rebounds is really really tough. Can any stats folks tell us the last time someone had 20 rebounds for UMass?
    Or maybe I'm a dolt and it happens more than I think
  • no, not enough to curtail the yak. We're still talking about Lappas around here fer cryin' out loud. That chatter will never end

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Re: 2020-21 Season

Post by capezona » Thu May 07, 2020 3:56 pm

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20 rebounds is really really tough. Can any stats folks tell us the last time someone had 20 rebounds for UMass?
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20 rebounds is tough. This piqued my interest so I went back to the 96-97 season (which is as far back as my spreadsheet goes) and found no 20 rebound games in the last 24 years. Ten times someone pulled down 16 in a game, 5 times there were 17 rebounds, 2 times - 18, and 5 times there were 19 including Tre's this year. The 19 rebound games were from Basil in '98 against URI, Freeman in '06 against SBU, Gaffney in '08 against Memphis, and Sean Carter in '10 against Duquesne. Only one person averaged 20+ rebounds a game and we all know who that was. Next highest was Tim Edwards with 12.5. Tre will likely pull down 20 or more in a game but he won't do that consistently.

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Re: 2020-21 Season

Post by Floyd » Thu May 07, 2020 5:43 pm

McKinney wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 1:42 pm
Floyd wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 12:35 pm And finally, will they serve a decent burger and make beer prices a little more fan friendly?
I thought the Mullins Center lacked an actual kitchen. Hard for a burger to be decent when it's been cooked off-site and sitting under heat lamps for hours on end.
Where are they made? With the #1 dining in America, should be able to pump out some good burgers out of the truck to supply the concession stands. Is it a management thing where the food can't be brought in from campus? Nothing all that good, and pricey on top of that. Seems like a few years back there were more, and better options
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Re: 2020-21 Season

Post by 69MG » Thu May 07, 2020 6:06 pm

Kolton Mitchell is one funny dude. This video makes me think that his hand injury affected his shooting more than I thought. I'm not saying he'll be a great shooter, but maybe he'll be better than expected. Also, a funny jab at coach B at the end.

https://twitter.com/KoltonMitchell/stat ... 2866461699

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Re: 2020-21 Season

Post by capezona » Thu May 07, 2020 6:16 pm

What the hell? He didn't even attempt one this year.

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Re: 2020-21 Season

Post by UMassfan_19 » Thu May 07, 2020 8:18 pm

69MG wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 6:06 pm Kolton Mitchell is one funny dude. This video makes me think that his hand injury affected his shooting more than I thought. I'm not saying he'll be a great shooter, but maybe he'll be better than expected. Also, a funny jab at coach B at the end.

https://twitter.com/KoltonMitchell/stat ... 2866461699
He mentioned he developed a hitch in his shot When he shot up in height and his goal for the offseason is to get his shot better so defenses have to respect it

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Re: 2020-21 Season

Post by Juice Stand » Fri May 08, 2020 6:13 am

Thanks for diving into the rebounding numbers Capezona. Some seriously impressive performances there.

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Re: 2020-21 Season

Post by TruBluMaroon » Fri May 08, 2020 8:11 am

Jim Tiwn had 27 rebounds against Boston College in 1976
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20 rebounds is really really tough. Can any stats folks tell us the last time someone had 20 rebounds for UMass?
Or maybe I'm a dolt and it happens more than I think[/list]

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20 rebounds is tough. This piqued my interest so I went back to the 96-97 season (which is as far back as my spreadsheet goes) and found no 20 rebound games in the last 24 years. Ten times someone pulled down 16 in a game, 5 times there were 17 rebounds, 2 times - 18, and 5 times there were 19 including Tre's this year. The 19 rebound games were from Basil in '98 against URI, Freeman in '06 against SBU, Gaffney in '08 against Memphis, and Sean Carter in '10 against Duquesne. Only one person averaged 20+ rebounds a game and we all know who that was. Next highest was Tim Edwards with 12.5. Tre will likely pull down 20 or more in a game but he won't do that consistently.
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Re: 2020-21 Season

Post by capezona » Fri May 08, 2020 9:33 am

Juice Stand wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 6:13 am Thanks for diving into the rebounding numbers Capezona. Some seriously impressive performances there.
The top 10 rebounding teams in UMass history all played between 1953 and 1970. Nine of 10 of the top assists teams played between 1964-74. Most of those years the teams didn't have particularly good records. I wonder if assists and rebounds were counted differently back then? But there were some seriously great rebounders. The top 20 season rebounders (rebounds per game in a season) all played before 1977 except for Tony Gaffney who comes in tied for 20th at 10.2/game. If Tre averages 12 per game he'll be in the top 10 but I think he's definitely capable of hitting the 20/20 threshold for a game.

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Re: 2020-21 Season

Post by Juice Stand » Fri May 08, 2020 12:15 pm

My guess on why those numbers are higher for the older teams is because 1) they probably played more fundamental basketball in their passing and rebounding. The game is more one-on-one that it was back then, so fewer opportunities for assists. And 2) That's before the dunk became legal. The game is played above the rim now, and there aren't a lot of missed dunks, so rebounds are a little harder to come by.

Or maybe it's just bad stat keeping, who knows. Interesting stuff anyway, thanks Cap.

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Re: 2020-21 Season

Post by TruBluMaroon » Fri May 08, 2020 1:49 pm

TruBluMaroon wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 8:11 am Jim Tiwn had 27 rebounds against Boston College in 1976
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Jim TOWN ( sorry typo)
If memory serves me, it was in the old Boston Garden in the Colonial Classic in early December.
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Re: 2020-21 Season

Post by Old Cage » Fri May 08, 2020 1:57 pm

^ ^ One more reason: very short benches. The starters played big minutes.

Example: In our 1962 NCAA tournament loss to NYU, which was a disaster, we only played six guys (plus two more that got a couple of garbage time minutes).
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Re: 2020-21 Season

Post by LS71 » Mon May 11, 2020 1:34 pm

TruBluMaroon wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 8:11 am Jim Tiwn had 27 rebounds against Boston College in 1976
quote=capezona post_id=506941 time=1588884963 user_id=247
20 rebounds is really really tough. Can any stats folks tell us the last time someone had 20 rebounds for UMass?
Or maybe I'm a dolt and it happens more than I think[/list]

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20 rebounds is tough. This piqued my interest so I went back to the 96-97 season (which is as far back as my spreadsheet goes) and found no 20 rebound games in the last 24 years. Ten times someone pulled down 16 in a game, 5 times there were 17 rebounds, 2 times - 18, and 5 times there were 19 including Tre's this year. The 19 rebound games were from Basil in '98 against URI, Freeman in '06 against SBU, Gaffney in '08 against Memphis, and Sean Carter in '10 against Duquesne. Only one person averaged 20+ rebounds a game and we all know who that was. Next highest was Tim Edwards with 12.5. Tre will likely pull down 20 or more in a game but he won't do that consistently.
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I think you're referring to Ajmal Basit.
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Re: 2020-21 Season

Post by KahunaK » Mon May 11, 2020 4:38 pm

TruBluMaroon wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 1:49 pm
TruBluMaroon wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 8:11 am Jim Tiwn had 27 rebounds against Boston College in 1976
quote=capezona post_id=506941 time=1588884963 user_id=247
Jim TOWN ( sorry typo)
If memory serves me, it was in the old Boston Garden in the Colonial Classic in early December.
Loved Jim Town, loved the Colonial Classic- local teams at the Garden-fun times. Wish they would bring something like that back. UMASS.BC, Providence and another local school.

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Re: 2020-21 Season

Post by TruBluMaroon » Mon May 11, 2020 4:46 pm

^Harvard, Holy Cross - featuring Ronnie Perry Jr. , UConn were among some of the participants. Talking about local, CR&L played a Prelim game featuring Patrick Ewing

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