Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

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Re: Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:52 am

TheOFFSeason wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:44 am
uz2b-len wrote:
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Not the least bit true. This was covered extensively in the Dayton newspaper. Crutcher said McCall called him told him he was leaving for UMass and goodbye.
Part of the story
Do tell.
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Re: Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

Post by uz2b-len » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:52 pm

I'd like it if there was more to the story, because the way it was represented in the press was not very flattering to McCall.
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Re: Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

Post by minutefanjsf » Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:40 pm

uz2b-len wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:52 pm
I'd like it if there was more to the story, because the way it was represented in the press was not very flattering to McCall.
https://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/ ... bmodKabVJ/ Seems like it is an okay situation.

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Re: Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

Post by JoleonLescottsHair » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:04 pm

minutefanjsf wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:40 pm
uz2b-len wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:52 pm
I'd like it if there was more to the story, because the way it was represented in the press was not very flattering to McCall.
https://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/ ... bmodKabVJ/ Seems like it is an okay situation.
I’m struggling to find the “not very flattering to McCall” angle here.

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Re: Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

Post by minutefanjsf » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:45 am

JoleonLescottsHair wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:04 pm
minutefanjsf wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:40 pm
uz2b-len wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:52 pm
I'd like it if there was more to the story, because the way it was represented in the press was not very flattering to McCall.
https://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/ ... bmodKabVJ/ Seems like it is an okay situation.
I’m struggling to find the “not very flattering to McCall” angle here.
Me too. It looks like he took the job with UMass while Crutcher was signed to Chattanooga. Crutcher got his NLI release and McCall probably had the Umass class all signed by then. Looks like McCall avoided tampering, even the perception of tampering.

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Re: Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

Post by PreecherJenkins » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:34 am

I am the biggest anti mccall guy on this board and i do not see where he went wrong in the recruitment. UTC may have said you cannot follow McCall, or maybe the kid simply did not want to go to UMass and sit behind Pipkins when he could start day one at Dayton.

We know the class was not fully signed as they signed Pierre in like May.

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Re: Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

Post by Floyd » Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:15 am

Just curious why you are anti McCall, is it because He followed DK or something else? Think he's a bad coach?
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Re: Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

Post by uz2b-len » Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:32 am

I can't look for the original article in the Dayton paper, which was around the time we first played against him. As I said, in that article Crutcher described a pretty cold brush-off from McCall. It sounded like McCall had no more interest in him. I notice even in this more recent article, with its cordial tone, there is still no reference to why McCall didn't bring Crutcher with him to UMass. If it was because UTC prevented it, I would have expected McCall to say something about it. As in, "I would have liked to bring him here, but...." I'll go digging for the original article later.
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Re: Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:36 am

^

I remember that being discussed here but I don't ever remember it being in print.


Either way, TheOFFSeason has the scoop, he should just post it instead of allude to it.
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Re: Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

Post by inthescoop » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:24 am

Dayton is now ranked #13 in the nation.

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Re: Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

Post by Almontis » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:27 pm

This is the article Len, or Used to be Len, is referencing https://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/ ... 30CBplTvN/

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Re: Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

Post by JoleonLescottsHair » Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:00 pm

Almontis wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:27 pm
This is the article Len, or Used to be Len, is referencing https://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/ ... 30CBplTvN/
That’s the extensive coverage?

Oh, good fucking grief. We have now gone from “Too bad McCall didn't try” and “Not the least bit true” as it was “covered extensively in the Dayton newspaper” and it was not “very flattering to McCall” to the need to “go digging for an (3 year old) article” that somehow counters the quotes and facts contained in this more recent article that shows McCall handled it appropriately. Oh, and now we’ve also gone from ‘he didn’t try’ to ‘well, “he should have been “expected to say something” about whether he did or did not try. Jesus.

Len, if you don’t like the man or his W/L record to date or, say, the way he sticks with the press when it fails, just say it. There’s plenty to critique. And, I realize we live in an era where sharpies can redraw the cone of certainty, but let’s lay off the cheap, invented character hits. They aren’t cool, particularly since, at minimum, McCall always takes responsibility for his performance...unless, of course, it is not honoring Pipkins on his (sort of) Senior Night! I mean, man, can you believe that shit?!

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Re: Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

Post by LS71 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:07 pm

^ What he said!
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Re: Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

Post by eldonabe » Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:17 pm

LS71 wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:07 pm
^ What he said!
Ahem.......... +1
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Re: Game 16, 2019-20: at Dayton (1/11)

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