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Re: Kaeo: Rashaan holloway

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Thu May 31, 2018 7:37 am

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Remember last year when we all thought he would dominate in the A10??
Yes. I also remember that he got injured, missed time in the off season and some of the preseason, didn't get the ball in the post much, and then became academically ineligible. It all sucked.
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Post by Floyd » Thu May 31, 2018 9:07 am

^and people saw him at Cumbies on Rte 9 8)
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Re: Kaeo: Rashaan holloway

Post by eldonabe » Thu May 31, 2018 9:14 am

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Just don't want him to be the 2nd coming of Big Deli
Well maybe if he plays every game like it was against Xavier then that would be OK :wink:
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Re: Kaeo: Rashaan holloway

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Thu May 31, 2018 9:25 am

Floyd wrote:
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^and people saw him at Cumbies on Rte 9 8)
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eldonabe wrote:
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Floyd wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 4:44 pm
Just don't want him to be the 2nd coming of Big Deli
Well maybe if he plays every game like it was against Xavier then that would be OK :wink:

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Re: Kaeo: Rashaan holloway

Post by NilesGold » Thu May 31, 2018 10:55 am

InnervisionsUMASS wrote:
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didn't get the ball in the post much
This is a fallacy. Holloway's usage rate this past season was 28.3, which would have put him at #4 in the A10 among qualified players. Holloway's biggest problem is committing too many fouls, he committed 7.3 fouls for every 40 minutes, eclipsed on the team only by KTM & Franklin (both 8 per 40).

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Re: Kaeo: Rashaan holloway

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Thu May 31, 2018 10:59 am

It's not a fallacy. People saw it with their own two eyes game after game and commented on it here as well. He'd get position and the ball would swing away from him constantly. It was much more evident/clear this season because of the better offense we had.


You're not wrong about the fouls. We also have seen that over his 3 seasons.
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Re: Kaeo: Rashaan holloway

Post by eldonabe » Thu May 31, 2018 11:45 am

NilesGold wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 10:55 am
InnervisionsUMASS wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 7:37 am
didn't get the ball in the post much
This is a fallacy. Holloway's usage rate this past season was 28.3, which would have put him at #4 in the A10 among qualified players. Holloway's biggest problem is committing too many fouls, he committed 7.3 fouls for every 40 minutes, eclipsed on the team only by KTM & Franklin (both 8 per 40).
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Re: Kaeo: Rashaan holloway

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InnervisionsUMASS wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 10:59 am
It's not a fallacy. People saw it with their own two eyes game after game and commented on it here as well. He'd get position and the ball would swing away from him constantly. It was much more evident/clear this season because of the better offense we had.


You're not wrong about the fouls. We also have seen that over his 3 seasons.
crazy how you are literally arguing with statistics. get a freakin grip dude. you're wrong

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Re: Kaeo: Rashaan holloway

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Thu May 31, 2018 12:14 pm

^

Yes, sometimes that happens because sometimes statistics don't always tell the whole story. Crazy, I know. :roll:
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Re: Kaeo: Rashaan holloway

Post by iwearglovesndhat » Thu May 31, 2018 12:16 pm

InnervisionsUMASS wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 12:14 pm
^

Yes, sometimes that happens because sometimes statistics don't always tell the whole story. Crazy, I know. :roll:
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Re: Kaeo: Rashaan holloway

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Thu May 31, 2018 12:18 pm

^

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Re: Kaeo: Rashaan holloway

Post by Jackson96 » Thu May 31, 2018 12:51 pm

That usage rate surprise me, but I did think there were times last year when Rashaan could have gotten the ball in the post and didn't (and if I recall correctly I am pretty sure there several folks in here who thought the same way at the time.) Doesn't mean the stats are wrong, doesn't mean I'm wrong. It can be both.

Sure he got some post up opportunities -- that can't be debated. He also could get some shots up off offensive rebounds which would raise his usage rate. We're also talking a 15 game or so sample size so one game could skew those #'s (no idea and not looking at a game log). None of that really matters, though, when you watch a game and see a player get position and you think should get the ball and he doesn't. Maybe it happens once a game, maybe a few times. But it happened. And yet he had a high usage rate. It can be both.
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Re: Kaeo: Rashaan holloway

Post by InnervisionsUMASS » Thu May 31, 2018 1:00 pm

Jackson96 wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 12:51 pm
Doesn't mean the stats are wrong, doesn't mean I'm wrong. It can be both.

Impossible. Mr. Glovesandhat says so.


For the record, this is the stat, per basketball reference:
Usage Percentage (available since the 1977-78 season in the NBA); the formula is 100 * ((FGA + 0.44 * FTA + TOV) * (Tm MP / 5)) / (MP * (Tm FGA + 0.44 * Tm FTA + Tm TOV)). Usage percentage is an estimate of the percentage of team plays used by a player while he was on the floor.

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Re: Kaeo: Rashaan holloway

Post by NilesGold » Thu May 31, 2018 1:08 pm

Jackson96 wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 12:51 pm
That usage rate surprise me, but I did think there were times last year when Rashaan could have gotten the ball in the post and didn't (and if I recall correctly I am pretty sure there several folks in here who thought the same way at the time.) Doesn't mean the stats are wrong, doesn't mean I'm wrong. It can be both.
Holloway could have gotten the ball in the post more, but that doesn't change the fact that he did get it in the post a lot.

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Re: Kaeo: Rashaan holloway

Post by Jackson96 » Thu May 31, 2018 1:22 pm

I was never arguing how much he got in the post. I was saying there were times last year when he should have gotten it and didn't. I have no idea how much he actually got it in the post. His usage rate is high sure, but it is a small sample size where one game could skew it and he could have gotten shots off offensive rebounds. but, sure he probably got it quite a bit.

Again IT CAN BE BOTH
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